Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15332

    #46
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

    Originally posted by Mofra
    I think he had one CBA, surprisingly won a boundary throw in contest.
    Gardner is tall enough but I don't recall him training for the role
    Are you suggesting Hannan and Dunks have trained for the role?!
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14972

      #47
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

      Originally posted by azabob
      Are you suggesting Hannan and Dunks have trained for the role?!
      Hannan clearly has, he took some F50 contests too. It seems a pre-conceived plan to keep English a kick behind the play to defend the 'get out' kick.
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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66812

        #48
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

        Originally posted by Mofra
        Hannan clearly has, he took some F50 contests too. It seems a pre-conceived plan to keep English a kick behind the play to defend the 'get out' kick.
        He took a couple of ruck contests, which I didn't worry about.

        I thought Hannan played one of his better games last night.
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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18983

          #49
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

          Originally posted by Mofra
          VDM leads the comp in 'repeat sprints' - Wallis isn't quick enough to register a stat. If he comes in, it won't be for VDM's spot.
          I thought he did a lot of 'unrewarded' stuff ok last night.
          I thought Vandermeer was pretty good last night. He's still a kid learning his craft.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Missing Dog
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8501

            #50
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

            Originally posted by Mofra
            VDM leads the comp in 'repeat sprints' - Wallis isn't quick enough to register a stat. If he comes in, it won't be for VDM's spot.
            I thought he did a lot of 'unrewarded' stuff ok last night.
            Unfortunately its not the Stawell gift, he is next to useless and needs a long spell in the magoos to learn how to get the ball, we simply annot carry players who are not footballers

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13239

              #51
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

              I think Laith is a footballer he's just a person who can run fast first at the moment. We have so many players down on form Keath, Williams, Hunter, Cody, Daniel, Dunks, VDM and then throw in our triers Cordy, Gardner, R Smith and Scott and that basically manifests as a middle of the road team.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5113

                #52
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                Originally posted by Mofra
                He's 3cm taller than Lachie Neale.
                If you're good enough, you're tall enough. He didn't get any senior praccy match time so the MC must view him as a fair way off.
                I know this sounds dumb but he is a tiny 182cm. His limbs are all so short, and his head is huge compared to his body, hence the toddler comment. I haven't seen him live for years so I may be wrong but to me despite however tall he actually is the way his body works he is effectively the smallest guy on our list.

                Originally posted by Bullies
                West is a smart footballer but might not fit into the modern footballer mould of being an athlete so is not selected. Type of player that will dominate somewhere else if he doesn't get opportunities.
                And his recent performances that we have seen (limited that they have been) have been anything but smart. Admittedly haven't seen him play much mid time, but as a forward he has the Cody's (flies for marks despite being the worst candidate to take them), lacks the pace to get away from opponents so tries to break tackles, but isn't big enough to do so at AFL level so gets repeatedly caught, and is either sloppy with his disposal or picks bad options.

                Maybe he needs time to adjust to playing with bigger and better bodies in the AFL where he is not powerful enough to use his size to help, but I have seen nothing to suggest that he is a weapon in the midfield aside from tenacity (from what I've seen he lacks the explosiveness to burst out with the footy nor the disposal to be able to offer anything better than decent distribution on the spread, something Libba is amazing at).

                Happy for him to play though if he earns it and we are at least trying to fix our midfield issues, I just haven't seen anything from him that says AFL footballer to me.
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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5113

                  #53
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                  Originally posted by Bullies
                  Why don't we just play guys who know how to play football - see ball get ball rather than play "cover angles" "force kicks to bad options". It should be a basic game. Wal has footy smarts. He can't do worse than Vandermeer. I suppose Roarke Smith has a special role as well. No idea what it is though. Get back to basics and select guys for their football ability and not because they are athletes or skate with Bevo.
                  Because we play a high press and need our forward to be able to cover ground and slow their defence down. Wallis can fill holes, but Vandermeer applies so much more pressure and by cutting the angles is a major asset to limiting the damage the opposition can do.

                  Our second half we were dominant, and a big part of that was because we constrained Carltons ball movement from defence so well. Completely agree Vandermeer needs to do more with the ball, but if we are gonna persist with this setup then Wallis is not even in the mix for that role.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • SquirrelGrip
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1524

                    #54
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                    Out: Crozier (inj), Dunkley, R. Smith
                    In: B. Smith, O'Brien, Jones

                    O'Brien has to come straight in when fit given he has recruited for a specific role in mind. B.Smith an obvious in, and Jones will give us some spark and is a good runner.

                    I hope Crozier is OK but I think it would be to rest him and check exactly what the issue is. R.Smith is a COVID top-up player at best, and has been shown up two weeks in a row. What a waste to have someone on a wing with such low skill level. He can only play when he has a specific run-with role.

                    The other out is Dunkley. I was super-disappointed with his game last night. He was given Cripps for much of the night, didn't chase, couldn't keep up. His kick in the centre square to Weightman (2nd quarter?) was a wrong hospital option when we are charging up the middle with numbers, only for us to lose possession head off to the flank where Cripps hadn't bothered going with Dunkley, for them to have the numbers and another goal. And then his last quarter misses too. Gutted! For Dunkley to be in our team, he needs to be that big-bodied mid tackling machine, like he was for half a season (2019). He seems to be leaner, has no acceleration, and it would be worth sending him a message.

                    Of course I expect him then to have a big sook and call his manager to see if the Bummers are still interested.
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                    • Bullies
                      WOOF Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 1807

                      #55
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                      Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                      Out: Crozier (inj), Dunkley, R. Smith
                      In: B. Smith, O'Brien, Jones

                      O'Brien has to come straight in when fit given he has recruited for a specific role in mind. B.Smith an obvious in, and Jones will give us some spark and is a good runner.

                      I hope Crozier is OK but I think it would be to rest him and check exactly what the issue is. R.Smith is a COVID top-up player at best, and has been shown up two weeks in a row. What a waste to have someone on a wing with such low skill level. He can only play when he has a specific run-with role.

                      The other out is Dunkley. I was super-disappointed with his game last night. He was given Cripps for much of the night, didn't chase, couldn't keep up. His kick in the centre square to Weightman (2nd quarter?) was a wrong hospital option when we are charging up the middle with numbers, only for us to lose possession head off to the flank where Cripps hadn't bothered going with Dunkley, for them to have the numbers and another goal. And then his last quarter misses too. Gutted! For Dunkley to be in our team, he needs to be that big-bodied mid tackling machine, like he was for half a season (2019). He seems to be leaner, has no acceleration, and it would be worth sending him a message.

                      Of course I expect him then to have a big sook and call his manager to see if the Bummers are still interested.
                      So glad you raised R Smith. I just don't see why we persist week in week out. He offers jack unfortunately. Plays on a wing - lacks pace and skills are ordinary. I don't get it. We have been conditioned by Bevo that he will play each week no matter what. If anything make him tag.

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                      • The bulldog tragician
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 1972

                        #56
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                        Originally posted by Bullies
                        So glad you raised R Smith. I just don't see why we persist week in week out. He offers jack unfortunately. Plays on a wing - lacks pace and skills are ordinary. I don't get it. We have been conditioned by Bevo that he will play each week no matter what. If anything make him tag.
                        He is a defensive winger isn’t he? Who was the other on the wing as I’m pretty sure Hunter is banished to fwd line where he never threatens to score or even be creative in creating scores? Is he there because he’s not quite fit?
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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15472

                          #57
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                          Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
                          He is a defensive winger isn’t he? Who was the other on the wing as I’m pretty sure Hunter is banished to fwd line where he never threatens to score or even be creative in creating scores? Is he there because he’s not quite fit?
                          Daniel started on the wing opposite R.Smith, but moved to defence in the 2nd half... Hunter was on the wing in the 2nd half.

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14972

                            #58
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Daniel started on the wing opposite R.Smith, but moved to defence in the 2nd half... Hunter was on the wing in the 2nd half.
                            Yep - and I never want to see Hunter in the F50 again.
                            He's either wing or VFL for me.
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                            • Testekill
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 2327

                              #59
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                              Honestly it's frustrating that Hunter seems to be getting a clean pass because credits in the bank, he's been horrid so far this season.

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                              • SonofScray
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 4241

                                #60
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                                I want to find a way to get Baz, Jones, Sweet and West into this team.

                                Want to cash in on English's improvement by supporting him with another big body when he is having a rest forward.
                                Want Jones' for some excitement and joyfulness in what has otherwise been a very methodical start falling below expectations.
                                Want West in because I think he might have the competitiveness in the clinches across HFF and I50 that we aren't getting enough of.
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