Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5113

    #16
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
    I would have Wallis in front of Vanda. We need another marking forward. Wallis can provide that and he is tough. Our biggest issue is key defence and I don't know what the solution is there. Gardner is not up to it. Keath looks well below his form of last year.
    Don't think Wallis offers us what we are looking for in the Vandermeer role. Vandermeer is meant to cover the angles well, force kicks to bad options and apply good pressure, and when he gets the ball meant to move it quickly and directly with hurt factor. The with the ball stuff is what he has sucked at for some time, although 1 tackle is not a great output either. I'd suggest we have a bunch of options for his role though; McNeil and Garcia both showed good signs there last year, it could be one we try Jones in, JJ should be a shoe in when fit, I personally don't think it plays to his strengths but West is probably in the mix for it, and I reckon McComb might be one they look at for it as well.

    Unfortunately for Wallis I think one of the key attributes they look at for that role is pace and he has none of that. He's more looking at the Hannan or JUH role where he is a foil for the main target (Naughton) and needs to be able to provide cover in marking contests or be another option.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5113

      #17
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Who plays on Buddy next week?
      Man I hope he kicks 4 tomorrow, otherwise Gardner is going to be immortalised as the guy on the mark for the 1000th. Although with his track record he'd probably vertical jump smother it.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • angelopetraglia
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6853

        #18
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

        Originally posted by soupman
        Don't think Wallis offers us what we are looking for in the Vandermeer role. Vandermeer is meant to cover the angles well, force kicks to bad options and apply good pressure, and when he gets the ball meant to move it quickly and directly with hurt factor. The with the ball stuff is what he has sucked at for some time, although 1 tackle is not a great output either. I'd suggest we have a bunch of options for his role though; McNeil and Garcia both showed good signs there last year, it could be one we try Jones in, JJ should be a shoe in when fit, I personally don't think it plays to his strengths but West is probably in the mix for it, and I reckon McComb might be one they look at for it as well.

        Unfortunately for Wallis I think one of the key attributes they look at for that role is pace and he has none of that. He's more looking at the Hannan or JUH role where he is a foil for the main target (Naughton) and needs to be able to provide cover in marking contests or be another option.
        Fair enough. JJ did show some decent forward craft late last years and kicked a few goals no one else could have created. We also miss his genuine pace. It will be good to have him back.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66828

          #19
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

          Let's see how the VFL goes tomorrow, although there a few Covid Issues
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • whythelongface
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 4511

            #20
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

            Originally posted by soupman
            Don't think Wallis offers us what we are looking for in the Vandermeer role. Vandermeer is meant to cover the angles well, force kicks to bad options and apply good pressure, and when he gets the ball meant to move it quickly and directly with hurt factor. The with the ball stuff is what he has sucked at for some time, although 1 tackle is not a great output either. I'd suggest we have a bunch of options for his role though; McNeil and Garcia both showed good signs there last year, it could be one we try Jones in, JJ should be a shoe in when fit, I personally don't think it plays to his strengths but West is probably in the mix for it, and I reckon McComb might be one they look at for it as well.

            Unfortunately for Wallis I think one of the key attributes they look at for that role is pace and he has none of that. He's more looking at the Hannan or JUH role where he is a foil for the main target (Naughton) and needs to be able to provide cover in marking contests or be another option.
            I forgot about West. He seems to be the forgotten man. I know he has played forward but is there an opportunity for him to come into the midfield? What are some of his attributes? Does he have the ability to win the ball?

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            • soupman
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2007
              • 5113

              #21
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Let's see how the VFL goes tomorrow, although there a few Covid Issues
              I wonder if we will get anything more comprehensive than a goalkicker list
              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5113

                #22
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                Originally posted by whythelongface
                I forgot about West. He seems to be the forgotten man. I know he has played forward but is there an opportunity for him to come into the midfield? What are some of his attributes? Does he have the ability to win the ball?
                I think he is a midfielder in a toddlers body. He could play the tough role that Libba will vacate, but he is just so small. He would get monstered by even the medium size mids imo. I think like Honeychurch he is too small to play his real role and has to become a pressure small forward flanker instead.
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • westbulldog
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1828

                  #23
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                  Out Crozier Cordy Vandermeer Gardner
                  In O'Brien B Smith Williams Sweet

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10154

                    #24
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                    Keath apparently got cured of shitness at half time because he was rock solid from there on out. Hopefully he keeps it up or he could be on a highlight reel forever. I can't believe I'm saying this but please let O'Brien be ready. I don't rate him, like, at all but I rate the thought of Cordy not in the team anymore.

                    I actually thought the forward pressure, in particular that dickhead Weightman, was outstanding tonight and generated a bunch of chances when seemingly nothing else would. So not sure it's the week for McNeil. VDM was okay too but needs to do start doing stuff when he actually has the ball again.

                    English needs some legitimate support (poor Zaine tried but made for some brutal viewing), but also as the newly emerged best around the ground ruckman in the league needs to spend the majority of the game in there. So I guess that means Sweet but I fear that ruins the aforementioned forward pressure we seem to have gotten working.

                    Smith needs to come in for Scott, who was courageous (with one exception that I'm calling a miscommunication) but is still a lot worse than Baz.

                    So guess it's O'Brien, Smith and Sweet in for Scott, Cordy and someone? else? I dunno, this is a weird feeling. We lost and we're 0-2 and we suck but that second half was pretty not bad.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • The bulldog tragician
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 1972

                      #25
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      Keath apparently got cured of shitness at half time because he was rock solid from there on out. Hopefully he keeps it up or he could be on a highlight reel forever. I can't believe I'm saying this but please let O'Brien be ready. I don't rate him, like, at all but I rate the thought of Cordy not in the team anymore.

                      I actually thought the forward pressure, in particular that dickhead Weightman, was outstanding tonight and generated a bunch of chances when seemingly nothing else would. So not sure it's the week for McNeil. VDM was okay too but needs to do start doing stuff when he actually has the ball again.

                      English needs some legitimate support (poor Zaine tried but made for some brutal viewing), but also as the newly emerged best around the ground ruckman in the league needs to spend the majority of the game in there. So I guess that means Sweet but I fear that ruins the aforementioned forward pressure we seem to have gotten working.

                      Smith needs to come in for Scott, who was courageous (with one exception that I'm calling a miscommunication) but is still a lot worse than Baz.

                      So guess it's O'Brien, Smith and Sweet in for Scott, Cordy and someone? else? I dunno, this is a weird feeling. We lost and we're 0-2 and we suck but that second half was pretty not bad.
                      Sorry?
                      [url]www.bulldogtragician.com[/url] A blog about being a lifelong fan of the Dogs and our quixotic attempt to replicate 1954. AND WE DID
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66828

                        #26
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                        Originally posted by soupman
                        I wonder if we will get anything more comprehensive than a goalkicker list
                        Smads ball by ball
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10154

                          #27
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                          Originally posted by The bulldog tragician

                          Sorry?
                          Its a running joke I have with myself. I love Cody.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • The bulldog tragician
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 1972

                            #28
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Its a running joke I have with myself. I love Cody.
                            Ok. I thought we’d been infiltrated by an embittered BombreBlitz type
                            [url]www.bulldogtragician.com[/url] A blog about being a lifelong fan of the Dogs and our quixotic attempt to replicate 1954. AND WE DID
                            Author of [URL="http://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/mighty-west"]"The Mighty West: the Bulldogs journey from daydream believers to premiership heroes[/URL]"
                            Twitter @bulldogstragic

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3869

                              #29
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Let's see how the VFL goes tomorrow, although there a few Covid Issues
                              Will we even know the result?

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                              • Vred
                                Senior Player
                                • Nov 2018
                                • 1294

                                #30
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

                                Originally posted by kruder
                                Will we even know the result?
                                *SHOULD* be live streamed on Kayo
                                [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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