Always Right Match Committee Round Three v Sydney at Marvel

[angelopetraglia]

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Intercept marks last year Bulldogs. Average.

Keath 1.9
Wood 1.7
Williams 1.6
Duryea 1.5
English 1.4
Crozier 1.2
Schache 1.2
Gardner 1.1
Dale 1

With no Wood. Keath playing a more lock down role. Williams not in the best form and Duryea out of the team to begin the season, you can see how we struggled in this area in the first two weeks.

[comrade]

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Bevo referring to Hannan’s 4 hitouts and mentioning Cordy’s centre bounce work tells me all I need to know.

[Mofra]

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Intercept marks last year Bulldogs. Average.

Keath 1.9
Wood 1.7
Williams 1.6
Duryea 1.5
English 1.4
Crozier 1.2
Schache 1.2
Gardner 1.1
Dale 1

With no Wood. Keath playing a more lock down role. Williams not in the best form and Duryea out of the team to begin the season, you can see how we struggled in this area in the first two weeks.

We did identify it as a problem - hence we sought out O'Brien. I really hope he's ready sooner rather than later.

[angelopetraglia]

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We did identify it as a problem - hence we sought out O'Brien. I really hope he's ready sooner rather than later.

Last season we did not have a player in the top 26 in the league for intercept marks. It is a massive deficiency. Other teams always appear to have multiple players who can play this role against us.

Top 10 Last Year

Lever 102
Andrews 88
Allir 87
Jones 79
Weitering 70
Stewart 62
Taylor 61
Ballard 60
Doedee 60
May 57

[Mantis]

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Bevo referring to Hannan’s 4 hitouts and mentioning Cordy’s centre bounce work tells me all I need to know.

I thought Hannan was ok around the ground in the ruck and probably competes more physically than Tim who is seemingly always caught behind. As mentioned by Bevo Hannan was nimble enough to react to poor throw-ins and get his hand to the ball... not sure we can rely on this tactic though.

Cordy did win 2 free's at the CB when pushed out the way, but he shouldn't be in there.

[comrade]

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I thought Hannan was ok around the ground in the ruck and probably competes more physically than Tim who is seemingly always caught behind. As mentioned by Bevo Hannan was nimble enough to react to poor throw-ins and get his hand to the ball... not sure we can rely on this tactic though.

Cordy did win 2 free's at the CB when pushed out the way, but he shouldn't be in there.

It’s more the fact he’s doubling down and publicly rationalising a flawed approach to such a critical part of the game that is concerning. I understand that he’s not going to admit he’s wrong at a press conference even if he is planning on changing course, but I doubt that is actually on the cards. It’s Timmy going solo or bust and even if we did want to go with 2 genuine ruck options, Stef and Sweet are not the types to pair with English anyway.

We put all our eggs in one basket and now we live with the consequences.

[Mantis]

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It’s more the fact he’s doubling down and publicly rationalising a flawed approach to such a critical part of the game that is concerning. I understand that he’s not going to admit he’s wrong at a press conference even if he is planning on changing course, but I doubt that is actually on the cards. It’s Timmy going solo or bust and even if we did want to go with 2 genuine ruck options, Stef and Sweet are not the types to pair with English anyway.

We put all our eggs in one basket and now we live with the consequences.

Yep.. with Tim as our #1 ruck who we look to have spending 70+% game time in that role we really don't have another option on the list, except perhaps Schache to fill the role with the type of player the role needs, but he can't nail down the spot.. so we all better get used to losing our minds!

[Mofra]

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Tim is actually a very good ruckman except for the actual ruck aspect of the craft.
Does his 'other' stuff account for his lack of actual ruck craft? At this stage he's basically Dean Cox without the hit-outs.

Given we gave Ayce Cordy an extended run over Minson back in the day, we can safely assume that 'around the ground' work ranks higher than hit-outs on the Bevo scale of importance.

[Bornadog]

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Yep.. with Tim as our #1 ruck who we look to have spending 70+% game time in that role we really don't have another option on the list, except perhaps Schache to fill the role with the type of player the role needs, but he can't nail down the spot.. so we all better get used to losing our minds!

We can whinge all season about the rucks, but it is what it is.

From Presser

Luke Beveridge: "We feel Tim is really ready. His role has evolved, we're doing it a bit differently with how we play the turnover game & how he sets up at stoppages. Last year when we lost Brucey, we needed Tim fwd."

[Bornadog]

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Tim is actually a very good ruckman except for the actual ruck aspect of the craft.
Does his 'other' stuff account for his lack of actual ruck craft? At this stage he's basically Dean Cox without the hit-outs.

Given we gave Ayce Cordy an extended run over Minson back in the day, we can safely assume that 'around the ground' work ranks higher than hit-outs on the Bevo scale of importance.

Listening in the car to Dwayne yesterday, he was saying is Tim the new way that rucks should play with his work around the ground. Said Gawn and Grundy have not been as effective this year to date like Tim has.

20 and 24 disposals and 6 marks in each game

2022 Games Log for Timothy English (Western Bulldogs) Description Date Opponent Result Round 2 Mar 24 Blues Loss 90-102 10 14 24 6 1 0 1 21 0 3 6 5 2 0 2 101 99 Round 1 Mar 16 Demons Loss 71-97 16 4 20 6 0 1 2 18 0 1 8 2 4 8 1 106 123

[whythelongface]

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It’s more the fact he’s doubling down and publicly rationalising a flawed approach to such a critical part of the game that is concerning. I understand that he’s not going to admit he’s wrong at a press conference even if he is planning on changing course, but I doubt that is actually on the cards. It’s Timmy going solo or bust and even if we did want to go with 2 genuine ruck options, Stef and Sweet are not the types to pair with English anyway.

We put all our eggs in one basket and now we live with the consequences.

Not sure what else he can say though given our inadequate options in this dept. it is obvious Sweet hasn’t come on as expected (as yet) and Martin - just seems to be struggling with age. The wider issue as we all bang on about is having further options in this area.

Right now make shift options are our best bet. Granted it is not great but if Hannan can chop out in the ruck in the forward line then this at least provides English with some respite. The bigger issue will be if English suffers a long term injury. Then we are well and truly stuffed

[Bornadog]

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Sam Landsberger reporting a positive Covid case, but not sure who?

[whythelongface]

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Sam Landsberger reporting a positive Covid case, but not sure who?

Us or Swans? Mitch Cleary indicating that Swans have landed without one of their stars.

[azabob]

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ROUND 3 TEAM
Western Bulldogs v Sydney
Thursday 31 March, 7.20pm AEST
Marvel Stadium

B: Ed Richards, Alex Keath, Taylor Duryea
HB: Caleb Daniel, Ryan Gardner, Bailey Dale
C: Jack Macrae, Josh Dunkley, Lachie Hunter
HF: Cody Weightman, Zaine Cordy, Bailey Smith
F: Mitch Hannan, Aaron Naughton, Jamarra Ugle-Hagan
R: Tim English, Adam Treloar, Marcus Bontempelli
Int: Roarke Smith, Tom Liberatore, Laitham Vandermeer, Anthony Scott
Emer: Jordon Sweet, Robbie McComb, Mitch Wallis, Bailey Williams

In: Bailey Smith
Out: Hayden Crozier (managed), Bailey Williams (Medi-Sub)

[azabob]

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In: Bailey Smith
Out: Hayden Crozier (managed), Bailey Williams (Medi-Sub)