Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18909

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

    Originally posted by Danjul
    Sorry to offend with a failed attempt at humour. Will try to do better with my next comment by keeping it serious.
    Do a smiley until people work out your default.

    Everyone just assumes I'm talking rubbish now it's refreshing.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15211

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

      Is the drastic move we need to make is move Bailey Dale forward?

      Play him out of the goal square as our leading target. He played this role successfully in late 2019 and is a beautiful kick for goal.

      The downside is we loose his drive and creativeness out of the back half.

      The upside is he is he has footy nous, forward craft and will take his opportunities when he has a shot at goal.
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66184

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

        Originally posted by azabob
        Is the drastic move we need to make is move Bailey Dale forward?

        Play him out of the goal square as our leading target. He played this role successfully in late 2019 and is a beautiful kick for goal.

        The downside is we loose his drive and creativeness out of the back half.

        The upside is he is he has footy nous, forward craft and will take his opportunities when he has a shot at goal.
        I would leave him where he is. He is playing well, he gained an AA in the role. Defence is already under pressure
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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18909

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

          Originally posted by azabob
          Is the drastic move we need to make is move Bailey Dale forward?

          Play him out of the goal square as our leading target. He played this role successfully in late 2019 and is a beautiful kick for goal.

          The downside is we loose his drive and creativeness out of the back half.

          The upside is he is he has footy nous, forward craft and will take his opportunities when he has a shot at goal.
          Hmm - it's an interesting proposition. To be honest I think he's now overtaken Caleb in that role off half back. I think Weightman should be able to do the same thing but just needs more time.

          Caleb forward? (Total spitball you've led me to).
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14870

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            Hmm - it's an interesting proposition. To be honest I think he's now overtaken Caleb in that role off half back. I think Weightman should be able to do the same thing but just needs more time.

            Caleb forward? (Total spitball you've led me to).
            I think we need Caleb delivering the ball inside 50. A marginal % set shot from Naughton at 48m out on the boundary is a poor return right now. We need to find free players who have a better chance of kicking the goal and that means our best kick in play has to get more chances to deliver it.
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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18909

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

              Originally posted by Mofra
              I think we need Caleb delivering the ball inside 50. A marginal % set shot from Naughton at 48m out on the boundary is a poor return right now. We need to find free players who have a better chance of kicking the goal and that means our best kick in play has to get more chances to deliver it.
              Yes it's as much about where you take the shots from isn't it.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Missing Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8501

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Perhaps something like this against North.

                Backs: Duryea Gardner Richards
                HBack: Dale O'Brien Daniel
                Centre: Hunter Dunkley Treloar
                HForw: B.Smith Ugle-Hagan Liberatore
                Forward: Weightman Naughton, Schache
                Rucks: English Bontempelli Macrae
                InterC: McNeil, Williams, Hannan, West

                Out: Vandermeer, Scott, Butler
                GVGjr I notice that you left McNeil in the team, after his attempt at goal that caused me having an attack of colic, what does he bring to our team, perhaps i have missed something, but i can remember our coach in the under 15's hauling me off the ground for a similar kick, and no interchange in those days. I am sorry to come down on the lad, but he does not deserve to be in the ones with that performance.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66184

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  I think we need Caleb delivering the ball inside 50. A marginal % set shot from Naughton at 48m out on the boundary is a poor return right now. We need to find free players who have a better chance of kicking the goal and that means our best kick in play has to get more chances to deliver it.
                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  Yes it's as much about where you take the shots from isn't it.
                  A lot of our shots are from close to the 50m arc. However, Naughton does miss alot from 30m out, but others who have missed are kicking from a long way out. Somehow we need to find targets within 30m. but because of the way we play, ie continually locking the ball in the forward half, our 50m arc is clogged with players, making it hard to find a target.

                  Caleb playing around wing would be good for delivering the ball to the forwards.
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                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18909

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    A lot of our shots are from close to the 50m arc. However, Naughton does miss alot from 30m out, but others who have missed are kicking from a long way out. Somehow we need to find targets within 30m. but because of the way we play, ie continually locking the ball in the forward half, our 50m arc is clogged with players, making it hard to find a target.

                    Caleb playing around wing would be good for delivering the ball to the forwards.
                    If you can create turnovers and springboard into attack quickly it should be open. What is most frustrating is time after time when this happens we seem to kick it to the advantage of the one out of position defender instead of into the dangerous space for the forward to run on to ! /rant
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18909

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                      Originally posted by Jam Donuts
                      GVGjr I notice that you left McNeil in the team, after his attempt at goal that caused me having an attack of colic, what does he bring to our team, perhaps i have missed something, but i can remember our coach in the under 15's hauling me off the ground for a similar kick, and no interchange in those days. I am sorry to come down on the lad, but he does not deserve to be in the ones with that performance.
                      Can we get Jam Donuts banned Gaz? xD
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • EasternWest
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 9994

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Do a smiley until people work out your default.

                        Everyone just assumes I'm talking rubbish now it's refreshing.
                        Is it an assumption though?
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15211

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I would leave him where he is. He is playing well, he gained an AA in the role. Defence is already under pressure
                          It is definitely robbing Peter to pay Paul but I’m out of ideas how to improve our inside 50 functioning.

                          If we don’t get it right soon, we are in danger of missing the top 8 - let alone top 4.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66184

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            If you can create turnovers and springboard into attack quickly it should be open. What is most frustrating is time after time when this happens we seem to kick it to the advantage of the one out of position defender instead of into the dangerous space for the forward to run on to ! /rant
                            This is the issue. We miss the opportunity when the Fwd50 is open, then the ball is stuck down there and the opposition flood in.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • SquirrelGrip
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1506

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                              Originally posted by Jam Donuts
                              GVGjr I notice that you left McNeil in the team, after his attempt at goal that caused me having an attack of colic, what does he bring to our team, perhaps i have missed something, but i can remember our coach in the under 15's hauling me off the ground for a similar kick, and no interchange in those days. I am sorry to come down on the lad, but he does not deserve to be in the ones with that performance.
                              McNeil does bring pace into the team and the ability to break lines on the turnaround. With VDM out, he stays.
                              "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                              • Scorlibo
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3075

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round Five v North Melbourne at Marvel

                                Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                                McNeil does bring pace into the team and the ability to break lines on the turnaround. With VDM out, he stays.
                                Agreed he should get another chance, I like his agility and smarts.

                                He's only 20 years old and still very much in the development phase of his career. It's easy to forget with the receding hairline and him having been drafted out of the SANFL Seniors.
                                'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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