Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66175

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    Agree on Sweet's fitness, but Cordy was destroyed as the second ruck vs GC and that played a big part in why GC kept getting back in the game - particularly in that second/third quarter.
    Forgetting about list management, and players we don't have, what is your solution for tomorrow and the rest of the season for the 2nd ruck role? For me, it can't be Hannan, or Dunkley, or any other mid.
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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11121

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Forgetting about list management, and players we don't have, what is your solution for tomorrow and the rest of the season for the 2nd ruck role? For me, it can't be Hannan, or Dunkley, or any other mid.
      For mine, I think we do whatever it takes to give our midfield an advantage at ALL times. Play to your strengths. That's the only way we compete at the top end and potentially win the flag. If we were so hellbent on "flexibility", why bother getting Treloar? We got him to exploit a clear strength further. I liked that. Exploit. your. strengths. I can live with losing in that manner.

      That means no Cordy, no Schache, no Hannan, no Dunkley as second ruck. It doesn't work. That is a KNOWN. Move on from this tactic.

      My first preference is we play the English/Sweet combination. I 'get' all the calls about Sweet, but if he's on the list and has been on the list all this time, it's about time we figure out if he's worth persisting with. He obviously isn't taking over Tim, so let's see how we can make it work with him as the second ruck/forward. The reality is our other options are contributing next to nothing in any position on the ground (Cordy and Schache) and Martin is finished.

      If Sweet needs to be somewhat managed at times, fine. But let's give our players some confidence in a structure - THIS is what we are, THIS is our identity.

      At the end of the year if we're still worried about Sweet and the second ruck position, ADDRESS IT. But until then, let's see if we can get an advantage because the reality is that if our midfield wins the battle OR breaks even, we win most games we play.
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      • josie
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2012
        • 4406

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

        Well said TBB. However if they bring in another tall player I hope the give Schache another go. His efforts in the VFL have been better. And he has flexibility to play multiple roles for us.
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        • Bulldog Joe
          Premiership Moderator
          • Jul 2009
          • 5511

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          You mean like Zaine Cordy?
          Cordy does provide some pressure presence and is better without the ball than Sweet.

          My preference is Schache for this week as he can get a goal and had the best performance of the options last week.
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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13189

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
            Cordy does provide some pressure presence and is better without the ball than Sweet.

            My preference is Schache for this week as he can get a goal and had the best performance of the options last week.
            Schache was really showing something in the key back role last season but he had a howler and was dropped. He also went forward a few times and hit the scoreboard. I thought Bevo liked flexibility and I'm surprised he hasn't been given more opportunities.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • BornInDroopSt'54
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2009
              • 5176

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              Schache was really showing something in the key back role last season but he had a howler and was dropped. He also went forward a few times and hit the scoreboard. I thought Bevo liked flexibility and I'm surprised he hasn't been given more opportunities.
              Schache more than other players would benefit from playing in a winning team perhaps, give him confidence that he can have a crack.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44337

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                Schache more than other players would benefit from playing in a winning team perhaps, give him confidence that he can have a crack.
                This is a good point, we have tended to drop him on the back of one poor performance, If possible an extended run might be the right tonic for him.
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                • Danjul
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 1601

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  This is a good point, we have tended to drop him on the back of one poor performance, If possible an extended run might be the right tonic for him.
                  Last time we dropped him was on the back of a good performance, on the back line for half then the forward line for 2 goals.

                  We drop Schache because we can. Don’t need a reason.

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                  • angelopetraglia
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6795

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                    From the Bevo presser a few take outs:

                    -I don't think Marra will play. When asked about Marra Bevo said that it is difficult to change the team this week. He said there are many things that some players are doing which contribute to the team success but not necessarily the stat sheet.

                    -Baz is fit and firing and will definitely come in. He also said that the club has currently had a good run with illness, all clear.

                    -He mentioned it was the first time that Sweet and English had played together where English was the primary ruck and Sweet was the back up and had to pinch hit forward. He said Jordan had been solid in the ruck for the last two weeks so it is a good sign if Tim isn't available that Sweety can fill a role. That gave me the imporession that Sweet is not playing this week.

                    -Bevo also mentioned that JJ only played 75% of the game in the VFL and needs to get through a full game at state level before he can be considered.
                    Last edited by angelopetraglia; 02-06-2022, 03:49 PM.

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                    • Jeanette54
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1245

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                      I've just watched an old Dogs v Cats game on Fox, and the Cats seemed to have great difficulty matching up on Josh Schache. He kicked multiple goals, and was a great contributor to our win. It was the game where Harry Taylor missed a set shot after the siren to give us the win.
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                      • BornInDroopSt'54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 5176

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                        Originally posted by Jeanette54
                        I've just watched an old Dogs v Cats game on Fox, and the Cats seemed to have great difficulty matching up on Josh Schache. He kicked multiple goals, and was a great contributor to our win. It was the game where Harry Taylor missed a set shot after the siren to give us the win.
                        With angelopetraglia suggesting no Marra maybe Josh gets a go but angelopetraglia reporting bevo saying 'difficult to change the team' yet Sweet likely out...hmm
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                        • BornInDroopSt'54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 5176

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                          Bevo could be foxing when q? about Marra 'difficult to change the team'.
                          If Sweet out surely a biggie forward comes in Marra/Loveshack.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
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                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                            Following on from the press conference, I can see only Baz coming in.

                            But, who goes out? Maybe McComb
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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13189

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Following on from the press conference, I can see only Baz coming in.

                              But, who goes out? Maybe McComb
                              Marra was training in the super domestique guernsey this week he's a lock.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • angelopetraglia
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6795

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 12 v Geelong at Marvel on Friday Night

                                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                                Marra was training in the super domestique guernsey this week he's a lock.
                                So was West. Which I found unsual. Is there a domestique for the VFL and AFL each week?

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