Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15210

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

    Originally posted by The Doctor

    We have 10 games to go. We need 6-4 minimum if not 7-3 win loss ratio with a tough draw ahead to make the finals I would think. So I want our best players on the field playing together as much as we can make it happen.

    .
    DOC, I think your team is one key forward or 2nd ruck short. We need some height down forward in an effort to stop Naughton being double teamed.

    I agree with your thinking on our having our best team out there week in week out and along those lines I'd prefer Bontempelli to play midfield rather than forward.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • SquirrelGrip
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2007
      • 1504

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

      This is my team if no injuries, no suspensions and everyone in form:

      B: O'Brien, Gardner, Daniel
      HB: Dale, Keath, Richards
      C: B.Smith, Macrae, Hunter
      HF: Treloar, Naughton, Johannisen
      F: Weightman, Bruce, Ugle-Hagan
      R: English, Bontempelli, Libba

      INT: Dunkley Duryea, West, Williams

      EMG: Schache McLean Hannan McNeil Khamis Wallis McComb Parker Sweet Jones Butler Vandermeer Bedendo Crozier Cleary Raak Scott R.Smith

      For GWS, with the target to eventually get to my best, I would have:

      B: O'Brien, Gardner, Daniel
      HB: Dale, Keath, Richards
      C: Williams, Macrae, Scott
      HF: Treloar, Naughton, McNeil
      F: Weightman, Schache, Dunkley
      R: English, Bontempelli, Libba

      INT: Sweet, Duryea, West, Bedendo

      U-H needs to knock the door down one more week, JJ needs to play full minutes at Footscray first, as does Hunter
      "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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      • The Doctor
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2007
        • 3702

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

        Originally posted by azabob
        DOC, I think your team is one key forward or 2nd ruck short. We need some height down forward in an effort to stop Naughton being double teamed.

        I agree with your thinking on our having our best team out there week in week out and along those lines I'd prefer Bontempelli to play midfield rather than forward.
        yes I agree, but the options are a bit thin at the moment. We looked unbeatable last year when we had Naughton, Bruce and English as our King Ghidora up front, but that is gone.

        Jamarra is next in line but not quite there yet based on Footscray form. He's improving and had he played a good game last week I would have named him. He had another almost game instead. Half a sec off the pace. Otherwise we have Martin (inj), Sweet (can't play forward), Cordy (defender) and Khamis (on L plates) as alternate options. This is why I mentioned Bruce who could be that player. But he is a few weeks away at least.

        Schache can 2nd ruck and is clearly a better forward than the other options. We have Bont & O'Brien as other tall options til Bruce or someone else forces their way in. Wallis perhaps for Bedendo to give us another forward target but I want to see Bedendo given a chance as I have been encouraged by his Footscray form.
        Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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        • Danjul
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2019
          • 1601

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

          Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
          This is my team if no injuries, no suspensions and everyone in form:

          For GWS, with the target to eventually get to my best, I would have:

          B: O'Brien, Gardner, Daniel
          HB: Dale, Keath, Richards
          C: Williams, Macrae, Scott
          HF: Treloar, Naughton, McNeil
          F: Weightman, Schache, Dunkley
          R: English, Bontempelli, Libba

          INT: Sweet, Duryea, West, Bedendo

          U-H needs to knock the door down one more week, JJ needs to play full minutes at Footscray first, as does Hunter
          Looks like a carefully thought out team.

          plenty of support in each zone, flexibility to move players to respond to circumstances. Structured to Players strengths, keeps any opposition on edge. Well done.


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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5508

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

            Originally posted by Danjul
            Looks like a carefully thought out team.

            plenty of support in each zone, flexibility to move players to respond to circumstances. Structured to Players strengths, keeps any opposition on edge. Well done.

            A balanced side picked to maximise their strengths.

            Can't see the MC going with anything as predictable as that.
            Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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            • Nuggety Back Pocket
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2064

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

              Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
              This is my team if no injuries, no suspensions and everyone in form:

              B: O'Brien, Gardner, Daniel
              HB: Dale, Keath, Richards
              C: B.Smith, Macrae, Hunter
              HF: Treloar, Naughton, Johannisen
              F: Weightman, Bruce, Ugle-Hagan
              R: English, Bontempelli, Libba

              INT: Dunkley Duryea, West, Williams

              EMG: Schache McLean Hannan McNeil Khamis Wallis McComb Parker Sweet Jones Butler Vandermeer Bedendo Crozier Cleary Raak Scott R.Smith

              For GWS, with the target to eventually get to my best, I would have:

              B: O'Brien, Gardner, Daniel
              HB: Dale, Keath, Richards
              C: Williams, Macrae, Scott
              HF: Treloar, Naughton, McNeil
              F: Weightman, Schache, Dunkley
              R: English, Bontempelli, Libba

              INT: Sweet, Duryea, West, Bedendo

              U-H needs to knock the door down one more week, JJ needs to play full minutes at Footscray first, as does Hunter
              Good to see your selection of two genuine ruck men and key forwards which has been sadly lacking by the MC. I believe though that Cordy is a better option than O’Brien who was very poor against Geelong.
              Would also play Wallis instead of McNeil

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21584

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                ha thanks bad xD

                Some don’t have them.

                Should I kick it?

                Anyway I’ve completely gone off thread apologies.


                JJ and Schache in.

                Not sure about outs other than baz.
                Definitely, and then lose it at Lum Reserve because you're a stupid dickhead thirteen year old like I did with the signed Hawthorn footy I won in U/12s for being best on in a losing semi final after not playing the week before because I went skiing instead of training.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21584

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Being a 2016 Footy, it might be worth a few bob
                  Yep, most Bob's are getting old and useless these days. You could definitely trade the footy for a few people named Bob.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21584

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    In fairness that move with Naughton was a more of a spur of the moment decision to address an injury.
                    Better list planning would have had negated the need to do that.
                    Wood being moved forward was due to more of an experiment we wanted to do.
                    A bit like Bailey Dale and Ed Richards who Bevo played when he could because he knew they were just good footballers and could play. I guess it's only Bevo who gets shit for having a crack at something different and pulling it off, right?

                    It's actually tiring this whole "yeah but he did only because" bullshit to be honest. The fact of the matter is he did, and we benefitted from it. A less innovative coach wouldn't have done it.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66138

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      Definitely, and then lose it at Lum Reserve because you're a stupid dickhead thirteen year old like I did with the signed Hawthorn footy I won in U/12s for being best on in a losing semi final after not playing the week before because I went skiing instead of training.
                      Funny, I won a signed Hawthorn footy in a raffle in the past players room. Mate's father played for Hawks and a few of us were invited in the pass players room at the G after Hawks v Dogs match. I had a choice of the signed footy or a pair of signed training shorts worn by Everrit. (yuk)

                      Used the footy to kick around in the park with my daughter, pretty sure she still has it
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21584

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                        Need to get Schache in, and Buku out. Schache to toil as second ruck.

                        JJ for Smith.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • EasternWest
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 9993

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Definitely, and then lose it at Lum Reserve because you're a stupid dickhead thirteen year old like I did with the signed Hawthorn footy I won in U/12s for being best on in a losing semi final after not playing the week before because I went skiing instead of training.
                          I'm glad you're not carrying any of this with you.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11117

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            Need to get Schache in, and Buku out. Schache to toil as second ruck.

                            JJ for Smith.
                            Schache would be just as ineffective in the ruck as Buku. Maybe a bit better up forward but even that's debatable.

                            Don't let Schaches 'flexibility' fool you into thinking he can make us better. Sounds harsh, and I like him, but surely we know what he is by now.

                            You're not gonna like it jee, but FFS, can we just play Sweet?
                            W00F!

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21584

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              I'm glad you're not carrying any of this with you.
                              It was a triggering post, I've stopped rolling around on the ground in sufficient time to piss and moan about other things.

                              However, I do remember rocking up to the rooms at the quarter final and the coach just looking at me and shaking his head to suggest I'm not on the board......but that definitely hasn't hurt me long term!
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21584

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                                Schache would be just as ineffective in the ruck as Buku. Maybe a bit better up forward but even that's debatable.

                                Don't let Schaches 'flexibility' fool you into thinking he can make us better. Sounds harsh, and I like him, but surely we know what he is by now.

                                You're not gonna like it jee, but FFS, can we just play Sweet?
                                I'm trying to operate within the confines of what I think is possible, and I think Schache should get the nod for his performance as a forward/ ruck which is what we need given English is going to be the first ruck and we're not going to pick a true first ruck (which is what Sweet is) to play second ruck.

                                And to be honest TBB, you might have been able to tell that I really don't think picking either makes much of a difference given how we play and the best 22 we have at the moment. So we may as well reward performance in the twos, after all, that's what the twos are for. If we don't at least keep some integrity in that area it becomes difficult to keep people trying.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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