Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21579

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

    Originally posted by Grantysghost
    Well you could argue with a better structure we would've kicked more considering the inside 50s.

    Agree re cats. I hate the we got close bs to be honest I hear it so often.
    Yes we got close, then guess what. Geelong did what they had to do a sealed it after defending for two quarters or more.
    You could also argue with a different structure we wouldn't have closed the ground down as well as we did.

    Anyway, we messed things up in the first quarter and suffered the consequences of doing so.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18898

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

      Originally posted by jeemak
      You could also argue with a different structure we wouldn't have closed the ground down as well as we did.

      Anyway, we messed things up in the first quarter and suffered the consequences of doing so.
      touché
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15207

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        Schache would be more of a forward target than Sweet.
        BJ, Schache should play as a permanent forward.

        I’m advocating for both to play this week. I’ve been very consistent with that in this thread.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • EasternWest
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 9993

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

          Originally posted by jeemak
          Man that sucks.

          Tiddlywinks has always been known for being over-officiated but that's just ridiculous.
          Chess you philistine. I'm an intellectual.

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          That's shizen! When little people get power they go a bit crazy.

          I was leading goal kicker 1998,1999.

          No trophy.

          Didnt affect me, at all, I mean nothing, I'm fine, who needs a trophy anyway?
          The guy who was the top scorer played in the other team, and the season head to head was 1-1 so it was predicted to be a rumble.

          Also, they weren't going to let one of our big guys play because he wasn't wearing socks. Can you believe that? Even after I gave him my socks, they still were reluctant to let him play.

          Oddly enough, the top scorer on the other team? It was his Mum that was the head official of the league and was the one making these calls. Just, what are the chances?

          I've got a bunch of trophies at home, I can send you one if you like?
          "It's over. It's all over."

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21579

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

            I threw my trophies out, if I'd have known GG I'd have sent them your way.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18898

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              Chess you philistine. I'm an intellectual.



              The guy who was the top scorer played in the other team, and the season head to head was 1-1 so it was predicted to be a rumble.

              Also, they weren't going to let one of our big guys play because he wasn't wearing socks. Can you believe that? Even after I gave him my socks, they still were reluctant to let him play.

              Oddly enough, the top scorer on the other team? It was his Mum that was the head official of the league and was the one making these calls. Just, what are the chances?

              I've got a bunch of trophies at home, I can send you one if you like?
              How deep does the u/16 eastern league conspiracy go..! Mein gott.

              Look thanks for all the trophy sharing but I've moved on... I don't even think about it.

              Maybe send a picture just in case I change my mind.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11115

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                When Schache plays poorly, I eagerly await the calls to drop him.

                I'm not saying Sweet is a great option - clearly that isn't the case - but posters using his stats v WCE don't seem to hold others to that same account (Khamis has barely touched it for weeks, Cordy still has his defenders despite never touching it).

                Last week Buku played solely as second ruck - pointless.
                Even if Schache spends time forward, rest assured he won't be as effective because we're also asking him to ruck (where, frankly, he sucks).

                Sweets value to the side is that it allows us to keep KPP in their preferred spots.
                W00F!

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66113

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  Sweet did deserve to be dropped.
                  English is so far ahead as first ruck that Sweet needs to be forward/second ruck and he is not effective at that.

                  Schache performed exceptionally well at Footscray as forward/second ruck and deserves the spot over Buku. Sweet shouldn't even be in the conversation.
                  Agree, bring Schache in

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  How’d our forward line operate against Geelong with only Naughton as a target?

                  Rather than focus on Sweets stats I focus on what else he brings to the team. Interestingly the one stat you should judge Sweet on is one you neglected to mention. 16 hit outs.

                  Focusing only on disposals is an extremely selfish way to play a team game.
                  Needs to do more than 16 hitouts

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  So your happy with our forward structure with Naughton as our sole target inside 50?
                  No BJ said Schache to come in and support in the Fwd line
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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9873

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    Well you could argue with a better structure we would've kicked more considering the inside 50s.

                    Agree re cats. I hate the we got close bs to be honest I hear it so often.
                    Yes we got close, then guess what. Geelong did what they had to do a sealed it after defending for two quarters or more.
                    Yeah, I kind of agree. It's nice we weren't belted but comes across as fools gold and people put stock in that.

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9873

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Needs to do more than 16 hitouts
                      So let's drop him and not let him play again. That will do his development wonders won't it.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9873

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                        When Schache plays poorly, I eagerly await the calls to drop him.

                        I'm not saying Sweet is a great option - clearly that isn't the case - but posters using his stats v WCE don't seem to hold others to that same account (Khamis has barely touched it for weeks, Cordy still has his defenders despite never touching it).

                        Last week Buku played solely as second ruck - pointless.
                        Even if Schache spends time forward, rest assured he won't be as effective because we're also asking him to ruck (where, frankly, he sucks).

                        Sweets value to the side is that it allows us to keep KPP in their preferred spots.
                        That's it right there. If the measuring stick is Khamis last week or Cordy in half a season. Why was Sweet's game against West Coast a get him the f out of the team situation for you guys? We get nothing anyway, why not use that to develop someone so it's something.

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                        • Danjul
                          WOOF Member
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 1601

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                          When Schache plays poorly, I eagerly await the calls to drop him.

                          I'm not saying Sweet is a great option - clearly that isn't the case - but posters using his stats v WCE don't seem to hold others to that same account (Khamis has barely touched it for weeks, Cordy still has his defenders despite never touching it).

                          Last week Buku played solely as second ruck - pointless.
                          Even if Schache spends time forward, rest assured he won't be as effective because we're also asking him to ruck (where, frankly, he sucks).

                          Sweets value to the side is that it allows us to keep KPP in their preferred spots.
                          Khamis, who I think has potential, got 3 goals when Sweet opened up the midfielders and they got the ball into the forward line quickly. What was Sweet’s reward? Being replaced in the ruck by Khamis who had never rucked at that level.

                          Let’s just face reality. At the club Sweet is a nonevent.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66113

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                            Originally posted by G-Mo77
                            So let's drop him and not let him play again. That will do his development wonders won't it.
                            I just think 6 disposals is not enough in the role he plays. He can develop in the VFL, and may come good as he matures.

                            In 8 games of AFL, he is averaging 8 disposals a game.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66113

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                              Originally posted by Danjul
                              Let’s just face reality. At the club Sweet is a nonevent.
                              If he was why would we contract him till end of next year? We need him to develop at VFL level at this stage.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Danjul
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 1601

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 v GWS at Giant Stadium on Saturday Night

                                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                                Schache would be more of a forward target than Sweet.
                                I think Schache should not have been dropped after being one of the better players against Adelaide. But he got results as a forward and backman.

                                So now we want him as a ruckman? Schache is not a ruckman. Putting him in the ruck for 25% of the game will do two things.

                                1. rob the forward line of some talent.

                                2. give the opposition rucks a boost.

                                It will also put him off his game for the rest of the game (negative) and justify sending him back to the seconds for the rest of the season (a positive for the thousands who thought dropping him last time was smart).

                                So before I go let me simply spell it out. Schache is not a ruckman.

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