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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67706

    #46
    Re: Trade hypotheticals

    Originally posted by Mofra
    By all accounts he didn't exactly keep himself in the best shape during the Covid years. You can't promote a guy if they don't deserve it.
    Sometimes a change of clubs is needed for a player to really knuckle down.
    2020 in the Hub he was out of condition and therefore didn't get games.
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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13387

      #47
      Re: Trade hypotheticals

      Originally posted by bornadog
      We don't know what was said, but he was offered a contract - means Lewis didn't want to be at the Dogs.
      I've discussed this elesewhere. I was told by an ex-player close to Young that Young was told he had a contract in his exit meeting and that it would be sorted following the trade period but he wanted out for more opportunities.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13387

        #48
        Re: Trade hypotheticals

        My kid and I just re-watched the 2018 Grand Final if we're not all over Willie Rioli I'll spew up.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • jazzadogs
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Oct 2008
          • 5853

          #49
          Re: Trade hypotheticals

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          My kid and I just re-watched the 2018 Grand Final if we're not all over Willie Rioli I'll spew up.
          Love Willie Rioli. Not sure why he would leave WCE/why they would give him up, but he is definitely better than any/all of our current small forwards, and James Rowe who we are reportedly looking at.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67706

            #50
            Re: Trade hypotheticals

            Originally posted by jazzadogs
            Love Willie Rioli. Not sure why he would leave WCE/why they would give him up, but he is definitely better than any/all of our current small forwards, and James Rowe who we are reportedly looking at.
            Willie gives 100% effort - get him in
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            • kruder
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2011
              • 3912

              #51
              Re: Trade hypotheticals

              Rioli for Vandermeer? Yes please!

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              • Bullies
                WOOF Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 1808

                #52
                Re: Trade hypotheticals

                Originally posted by bornadog
                2020 in the Hub he was out of condition and therefore didn't get games.
                So was Bruce but he got games

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67706

                  #53
                  Re: Trade hypotheticals

                  Originally posted by Bullies
                  So was Bruce but he got games
                  Not like Young
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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15548

                    #54
                    Re: Trade hypotheticals

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Not like Young
                    Don't kid yourself on how ineffective Bruce was in 2020.

                    He played 17 games and had 5 or more kicks in only 3 of those games... and went goalless in more than 50% of games played.

                    He was a complete bust and I think he only played as many games as he did as he was a ''big name'' recruit.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67706

                      #55
                      Re: Trade hypotheticals

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Don't kid yourself on how ineffective Bruce was in 2020.

                      He played 17 games and had 5 or more kicks in only 3 of those games... and went goalless in more than 50% of games played.

                      He was a complete bust and I think he only played as many games as he did as he was a ''big name'' recruit.
                      No doubt, however, Young was completely unfit and didn't even perform well in the scratch matches, so had no hope in the seniors.
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19389

                        #56
                        Re: Trade hypotheticals

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        Don't kid yourself on how ineffective Bruce was in 2020.

                        He played 17 games and had 5 or more kicks in only 3 of those games... and went goalless in more than 50% of games played.

                        He was a complete bust and I think he only played as many games as he did as he was a ''big name'' recruit.
                        The lesson is, don't recruit from the Saints. Their culture doesn't seem to be as professional as ours.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11494

                          #57
                          Re: Trade hypotheticals

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          The lesson is, don't recruit from the Saints. Their culture doesn't seem to be as professional as ours.
                          Feels like we have sent a lot more players the Saints way than vice versa over the years.

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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10246

                            #58
                            Re: Trade hypotheticals

                            Young played in round 1 of 2020 (was horrendous but he wasn’t alone). I wonder what sort of condition he turned up in after the second break to not be featured at all afterwards. Must’ve been pretty bad given the noticeable extra weight some others were carrying.
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • Danjul
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 1644

                              #59
                              Re: Trade hypotheticals

                              Originally posted by Happy Days
                              Young played in round 1 of 2020 (was horrendous but he wasn’t alone). I wonder what sort of condition he turned up in after the second break to not be featured at all afterwards. Must’ve been pretty bad given the noticeable extra weight some others were carrying.
                              Young played in the forward pocket and the ball rarely entered the forward line. Bruce was CHF and Naughton FF. The dogs kicked 1 goal in the second half, making a total of 5 for the game.

                              Grundy played close to a career best performance, destroying English. As the AFL website reports:

                              Brodie Grundy started 2020 as he ended 2019 with an outstanding performance to set up Collingwood's win tonight. 37 hitouts, including 12 to-advantage, a game-high nine score involvements from 19 disposals is a great way to start the new season.

                              Young was irrelevant. But dropped for the season? (Naughton had 2 disposals)

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10246

                                #60
                                Re: Trade hypotheticals

                                Originally posted by Danjul
                                Young played in the forward pocket and the ball rarely entered the forward line. Bruce was CHF and Naughton FF. The dogs kicked 1 goal in the second half, making a total of 5 for the game.

                                Grundy played close to a career best performance, destroying English. As the AFL website reports:

                                Brodie Grundy started 2020 as he ended 2019 with an outstanding performance to set up Collingwood's win tonight. 37 hitouts, including 12 to-advantage, a game-high nine score involvements from 19 disposals is a great way to start the new season.

                                Young was irrelevant. But dropped for the season? (Naughton had 2 disposals)
                                Yeah at the time I definitely thought it was curious. That game was actually about as low as the football world has ever seemed to me, what with the impending doom of what was to follow.

                                Maybe Young didn’t even go to the hub. Not like the club made any effort to keep us updated save for 3 hours once a weekend at that time.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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