Trade hypotheticals

[GVGjr]

Re: Trade hypotheticals

Aza, We are chips in committed to English. I couldn't see that changing but given this is a hypothetical the genuine ruckman option does have some appeal.

Wouldn't a combination of English and Jackson be hard to combat?

[azabob]

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Darcy has been not good this year though? He's regressed pretty badly, doesn't really offer much between stoppages, and BAD will not miss his waistline. English bodied him in that game against Freo a couple of weeks ago that otherwise didn't happen.

I think he's for the most part a pretty good player and would've been on board at the start of the year (especially after the GF), but now I think English is way past Darcy and I'd want extras.

I'm not sure he has regressed badly. I've only seen half a dozen dockers games and I've like what I've seen.

Statwise he seems to have averaged very similar to last year.

Extras can be Lobb and Bailey Banfield.

[azabob]

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Aza, We are chips in committed to English. I couldn't see that changing but given this is a hypothetical the genuine ruckman option does have some appeal.

Wouldn't a combination of English and Jackson be hard to combat?

100% agree we are all in on English - literally boom or bust.

Through good management or design I'm ok with English signing a two year deal; it certainly gives both parties the flexibility at the end of his contract.

Just on Jackson, is he mainly hype and potential at the moment? Or he is a rolled golded #1 ruck?

[GVGjr]

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100% agree we are all in on English - literally boom or bust.

Through good management or design I'm ok with English signing a two year deal; it certainly gives both parties the flexibility at the end of his contract.

Just on Jackson, is he mainly hype and potential at the moment? Or he is a rolled golded #1 ruck?

Jackson is an exciting prospect but I'm not convinced he could be the number 1 ruckman just yet. He's an excellent number 2 at the moment but he's not worth the money that has been speculated he will receive but in a couple of years he should.

[Bornadog]

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I'm not sure he has regressed badly. I've only seen half a dozen dockers games and I've like what I've seen.

Statwise he seems to have averaged very similar to last year.

Extras can be Lobb and Bailey Banfield.

Darcy is ranked 3rd in overall hitouts, but his average disposals per game have dropped from last year.

I really prefer English, especially his work around the ground.

[Twodogs]

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Aza, We are chips in committed to English. I couldn't see that changing but given this is a hypothetical the genuine ruckman option does have some appeal.

Wouldn't a combination of English and Jackson be hard to combat?

English is the sort of ruckman who relishes being the only ruckman in the team. That's why if we get Lobbe he will have to be prepared to play 90%+ time forward.

[Twodogs]

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I asked about this trade earlier on page 2, when funnily enough cracking shits about Lewis Young being mentioned again.

What about Tim English for Sean Darcy?

English game is built around "being the extra midfielder" and not as a ruck. This means OUR game is also built around it.

If English is poor around the ground (which frankly has been a 50/50 proposition in the second half of 2022) we are disadvantaged in two positions (ruck and the extra midfield number).

Bring in a skilled ruckman, give our midfielders something to work with in the center square and around the ground.

I think Darcy would also add the defensive hardness needed at stoppages.


>>>> Ducks for cover<<<<

Yeah/nah. There's hardly a player in the comp I'd swap Tim for. That's how valuable he is IMO.

[Twodogs]

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Is he the only one we ever got from the Saints?

Russell Tweedale, Con Gorozides, Max Crow, Jon Bennett, Bill Cubbins, Mark Kellett, Phil Cronan

[Bornadog]

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Russell Tweedale, Con Gorozides, Max Crow, Jon Bennett, Bill Cubbins, Mark Kellett, Phil Cronan

I knew you would remember

[Twodogs]

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I knew you would remember

I remember most of them for different reasons.

Russell Tweedale -took a piss off the top step of the Whitten stand into the carpark because Royce Hart wouldn't let him take a break from running up and down the stairs for disciplinary reasons.

Con Gorozides-taking speccies and kicking goals for fun when he felt like it. One of the biggest wastes of talent I can remember.

Max Crow-losing a testicle after being crunched in a pack.

Jon Bennett-nearly beating Essendon off his own boot on the wettest day I've seen at Whitten oval (and that's saying something)

Bill Cubbins -coached us to our first ever season that we won more games than we lost back on the 1930s
Also kicked 20+ goals in a reserves game for st Kilda after cracking the shits for being dropped.

Max Crow-first player I ever saw to use the 'dont argue' in a game

Phil Cronan-first player I saw to wear a helmet

[EasternWest]

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I remember most of them for different reasons

Bill Cubbins -coached us to our first ever season that we won more games than we lost back on the 1930s

Geez I knew you were old I didn't know you were Nosferatu old.

[Twodogs]

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Geez I knew you were old I didn't know you were Nosferatu old.

There are these things called books and they have stuff called information in them.

Having said that I saw the Tweedale piss and that must have been nearly 45 years ago.

[boydogs]

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English is the sort of ruckman who relishes being the only ruckman in the team. That's why if we get Lobbe he will have to be prepared to play 90%+ time forward.

It seems to me English plays with much more vigour when he has proper ruck support i.e. the Sweet effect

[Mofra]

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If the choice was Barrass for 2 x first rounders or Jack Payne for a second and our early third, who do you choose?
TBH I'd take Payne and bank the picks. Payne's second half last week was excellent and he's still got upside given his lack of continuity this year.

[Happy Days]

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I don’t wanna trade two firsts. That’s a lot!