WB Game Day 1st Elimination Final 2022 vs Fremantle

[Bornadog]

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I made a big post earlier this year about how our gamestyle is just too much hard work, and last night only reinforced my view on that.

Nothing in our "system" is easy, it all relies on maximum effort all the time.

Our forward entries particularly are a shit show, completely reliant on either contested marks or chaos footy. Super apparent last night when we were completely unable to generate anything that seemed methodical.

We need to either find a way to take advantage of two quick good marking key forwards (plus Weightman and Darcy and Bruce) that doesn't just involve bombs to the top of the goalsquare, or if we are to continue to be reliant on chaos ball we need to recruit players suited to that.

How have we for years generated infinite ground ball in congestion up forward and never even really tried to put a natural goalkicking crumbed on our list?

It was the same in 2016, the men of mayhem was very taxing on the players and they just couldn't sustain it in the following years.

We have tried to bring in small forwards but none have really worked.

[Scorlibo]

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Player ratings

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tea...280aa98fe0b1dd

They should just make the ratings out of 5 if they're not willing to give any player less than 3 or more than 8.

Bontempelli's game was a 10, he was outstanding.

Vandermeer was a 0 or even -1. Richards the same.

[Grantysghost]

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Hard to take them serious when they rate Dunkley a 7 and Hunter a 6.

Yep agree.

[Mantis]

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Hard to take them serious when they rate Dunkley a 7 and Hunter a 6.

Dunkley an 8 or 9… Hunter lucky to be a 4.

Hunter can’t kick over a jam tin and his greatest weapon (his running power) isn’t the same as it once was…. Our lack of strength on the wings is a real concern, but time to move on from Lachie.

[EasternWest]

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Dunkley an 8 or 9… Hunter lucky to be a 4.

Hunter can’t kick over a jam tin and his greatest weapon (his running power) isn’t the same as it once was…. Our lack of strength on the wings is a real concern, but time to move on from Lachie.

Exactly.

[soupman]

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We have tried to bring in small forwards but none have really worked.

Have we though? Aside from Cavarra (who was pretty workmanlike as far as crumbing forwards go) I can't think of us trying a genuine crumbing natural goalkicker type in at least a decade. Weightman I guess is ballpark but it seems he is more medium forward.

It isn't as if this type is expensive to acquire like key forwards either, virtually all the natural small forwards in the league were late picks or rookies.

[azabob]

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Watching Naughton's 100 games highlight clips we actually forget how good back he actually was. Like crazy good.

[GVGjr]

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Have we though? Aside from Cavarra (who was pretty workmanlike as far as crumbing forwards go) I can't think of us trying a genuine crumbing natural goalkicker type in at least a decade. Weightman I guess is ballpark but it seems he is more medium forward.

It isn't as if this type is expensive to acquire like key forwards either, virtually all the natural small forwards in the league were late picks or rookies.

I tend to agree, we missed Pickett, brought in Cavarra and have seemed happy enough to try and reshape the likes of McNeil, VDM and maybe Scott. We've done a bit but not really gone hard at it. Have we been distracted by obtaining points and picks for JUH, Treloar and Darcy?

[EasternWest]

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Watching Naughton's 100 games highlight clips we actually forget how good back he actually was. Like crazy good.

I've been against moving him back but if we're playing Darcy forward then he's gotta go back.

[GVGjr]

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Watching Naughton's 100 games highlight clips we actually forget how good back he actually was. Like crazy good.

Lone of the more disappointing milestone games last night. Was hoping for so much more.

[azabob]

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I've been against moving him back but if we're playing Darcy forward then he's gotta go back.

I think its one of Darcy / Naughton forward or back.

[EasternWest]

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I think its one of Darcy / Naughton forward or back.

Yeah but it seems were going to blood Darcy in the forward line so it has to be Naughton.

[soupman]

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Are we serious in here? Naughton kicked 51 goals this season, is like 22, and is only gonna improve. Firstly if we choosing one of he and Darcy to play back it isn't Naughton, and secondly there is no way anyone at the club is even considering sending our only actually great forward (and only really weightman is proven good atm) down back.

[Grantysghost]

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Yeah but it seems were going to blood Darcy in the forward line so it has to be Naughton.

Darcy isn't a defender ever. Naughton back balances things especially with Keath probably done.

[Grantysghost]

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Are we serious in here? Naughton kicked 51 goals this season, is like 22, and is only gonna improve. Firstly if we choosing one of he and Darcy to play back it isn't Naughton, and secondly there is no way anyone at the club is even considering sending our only actually great forward (and only really weightman is proven good atm) down back.

Chris Grant kicked 50 in his first year and was one of the all time greats and went back for the sake of the team.

It's a compliment to Naughton really that he's a swingman.

Id move him dependant on match ups.