Rory Lobb

[GVGjr]

Re: Rory Lobb

This is why I really really hope we had more irons in the fire.

I'd be confident that Power has cast a wide net. Finding a suitable replacement won't be easy though.

[Mofra]

Re: Rory Lobb

I'd be confident that Power has cast a wide net. Finding a suitable replacement won't be easy though.

Last year we had no Soldo or Payne replacement when those deals didn't pan out. I'm not sure there are too many 'gettable' types in the positions we're looking for

[GVGjr]

Re: Rory Lobb

Last year we had no Soldo or Payne replacement when those deals didn't pan out. I'm not sure there are too many 'gettable' types in the positions we're looking for

Both of them would have been good additions. Hopefully Power has some irons in the fire.

[jeemak]

Re: Rory Lobb

Power wouldn't have the final say on how we balance the list and who we target. He's largely responsible for leading the discussions and negotiations both internally and then externally, but there would be a collective that would need to tick off on who we do/don't go after so I don't think it's correct to blame him for that.

Our last list manager literally left because he was overruled.

Is it unusual for list managers to be overruled regularly by whoever else is also on the panel and whoever has to actually play the players being selected?

It's a genuine question, I don't know the answer to it.

From what I recall it was the selection of Gowers at the 2017 rookie draft that's reported to have done it, but it wouldn't or couldn't have just been this incident. I wonder if it still happens, but the money makes it more tolerable.

[Mofra]

Re: Rory Lobb

From what I recall it was the selection of Gowers at the 2017 rookie draft that's reported to have done it, but it wouldn't or couldn't have just been this incident. I wonder if it still happens, but the money makes it more tolerable.

We went for Clay Smith over Hayden Crozier at B-Mac's insistence, or at least that's the story

[jeemak]

Re: Rory Lobb

We went for Clay Smith over Hayden Crozier at B-Mac's insistence, or at least that's the story

I heard that one as well.

[azabob]

Re: Rory Lobb

Is it unusual for list managers to be overruled regularly by whoever else is also on the panel and whoever has to actually play the players being selected?

It's a genuine question, I don't know the answer to it.

From what I recall it was the selection of Gowers at the 2017 rookie draft that's reported to have done it, but it wouldn't or couldn't have just been this incident. I wonder if it still happens, but the money makes it more tolerable.

I heard Caleb Daniel say on a podcast he believes Bevo pushed for him to be drafted. Unsure if actual timing fits the narrative though as Bevo hadn't even coached a senior game when Daniel was drafted. .

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Rory Lobb

Is it unusual for list managers to be overruled regularly by whoever else is also on the panel and whoever has to actually play the players being selected?

It's a genuine question, I don't know the answer to it.

From what I recall it was the selection of Gowers at the 2017 rookie draft that's reported to have done it, but it wouldn't or couldn't have just been this incident. I wonder if it still happens, but the money makes it more tolerable.

I wouldn't think it's unusual. It would happen at every club to varying degrees.

I actually agree with it. For important club based decisions, not any one figure should be solely responsible BUT clearly the head Coach should have a big say. The Head Coach is the one that ultimately settles on a gameplan and then needs/wants players who are going to help bring that gameplan to fruition, so it only makes sense they recruit accordingly.

To use a specific example, Power would have identified Lobb and taken that to the 'selection panel' who then tick it off. It's then Power's role to satisfy Freo, which looks like being a hard task. His 'success' can be judged on this, rather than whether or not we're interested/go after Grundy.

[jeemak]

Re: Rory Lobb

I heard Caleb Daniel say on a podcast he believes Bevo pushed for him to be drafted. Unsure if actual timing fits the narrative though as Bevo hadn't even coached a senior game when Daniel was drafted. .

It fits in with what apparently happened with Smith and Bmac though, I guess. New coach comes in and makes a call based on who he thinks can take the club forward.

[Rocket Science]

Re: Rory Lobb

I'm of the view Lobb doesn't move the needle for us nearly enough, but the Freo posturing reads as just that. He's absolutely getting dealt, this is simply role playing over final value.

You don't hit the airwaves lauding your 'wantaway' player's attributes if you have zero interest in parting with them.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Rory Lobb

I'm of the view Lobb doesn't move the needle for us nearly enough, but the Freo posturing reads as just that. He's absolutely getting dealt, this is simply role playing over final value.

You don't hit the airwaves lauding your 'wantaway' player's attributes if you have zero interest in parting with them.

Didn't we do that with Dunkley?

[Stevo]

Re: Rory Lobb

I'm of the view Lobb doesn't move the needle for us nearly enough, but the Freo posturing reads as just that. He's absolutely getting dealt, this is simply role playing over final value.

You don't hit the airwaves lauding your 'wantaway' player's attributes if you have zero interest in parting with them.

I'm hearing we are still somewhat confident a deal will be done. Fremantle will accept a second and a third round pick for him.

[EasternWest]

Re: Rory Lobb

I'm hearing we are still somewhat confident a deal will be done. Fremantle will accept a second and a third round pick for him.

Yeah I don't buy any if the wharrgarrbl over it. He wants out and they will try to get their best result by talking 'ardball.

Then it'll all fizzle out late on the last day for what you've said I reckon, Stevo.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Rory Lobb

As an aside, if Freo committed to Lobb and his manager they would trade him this year, and as a result his missus moved to Melbourne after buying a house (at peak price) and then backtracked in the promise. I’d have already burnt my bridges publicly with Freo. Freo haven’t denied that promise was made, just now they don’t want to.

I wonder what that does for other players at Freo, or players thinking of request a trade to Freo, if their word doesn’t mean anything. Or perceived as meaningless through this public commentary?

[G-Mo77]

Re: Rory Lobb

Yeah I don't buy any if the wharrgarrbl over it. He wants out and they will try to get their best result by talking 'ardball.

Then it'll all fizzle out late on the last day for what you've said I reckon, Stevo.

Agree or we may just send them Bont and Naughton for him.