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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44411

    Re: Rory Lobb

    Originally posted by Mofra
    30 + 39 to West Coast for 26?
    30 + 39 to St Kilda for 28 and 47?
    The Saints can bid on McKenzie if he slides past their pick can't they? They might think 28 and 47 will help them land him
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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      Re: Rory Lobb

      I believe under the new rules they can only bid if he slides beyond Pick 40, similar to Essendon with Munkara. It's safe to say McKenzie won't be sliding that far!

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44411

        Re: Rory Lobb

        Originally posted by Swoop
        I believe under the new rules they can only bid if he slides beyond Pick 40, similar to Essendon with Munkara. It's safe to sat McKenzie won't be sliding that far!
        Yes, I should have known that.
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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18932

          Re: Rory Lobb

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Yes, I should have known that.
          Crazily I spoke to the man himself about that we coined it the Marra rule. AKA can’t have the Dogs benefiting rule.

          Melbourne missed out on Mac Andrew due to it, he was their nga player.

          Edit : Now I remember it was about one of his brothers who he thinks is very good but won’t get to us due to his rule.
          Last edited by Grantysghost; 09-10-2022, 11:51 PM.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Stevo
            Senior Player
            • May 2008
            • 1030

            Re: Rory Lobb

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Can we give them a F3 as well?
            Why would we do that? Why overpay?

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              Re: Rory Lobb

              Originally posted by soupman
              I don't think pick 21 for Lobb is unreasonable. Sure he's 30 but even 2 good season playing a difficult rand somewhat unique role in a side that is trying to challenge is probably 70% more likely to be better than anything a pick 21 player produces.

              Draft picks are severely overrated, which again is why I'm amazed how cheap players are being traded for. Acres for pick 40 odd is amazing value, Logue for pick 19ish is amazing.

              Top 30 draft picks are important in getting talent onto your list, but in and of themselves they are a lucky dip that is rigged against the club.

              I'd honestly be surprised if there is even a statistically big difference between pick 21 and 30.
              He has 2 seasons with over 20 goals so honestly feel that 21 is too much. Having said that agree with your thoughts on it being a bit of pot luck. These are 2014 - 2020 drafts for picks 20-22 and 29-31. Putting in spoiler tags as it takes up a lot of space and not everyone will be interested.

              Spoiler: 

              20 Jayden Laverde Essendon
              21 Hugh Goddard St Kilda
              22 Daniel McKenzie St Kilda
              29 Touk Miller Gold Coast
              30 Brayden Maynard Collingwood
              31 Daniel Howe Hawthorn

              20 Brayden Fiorini Gold Coast
              21 Ben McKay North Melbourne
              22 Kieran Lovell Hawthorn
              29 Alex Morgan Essendon
              30 Mason Redman Essendon
              31 Ryan Clarke North Melbourne

              20 Isaac Cumming Greater Western Sydney
              21 Will Hayward Sydney
              22 Jordan Ridley Essendon
              29 Shai Bolton Richmond
              30 Sam McLarty Collingwood
              31 Josh Begley Essendon

              20 Callum Coleman-Jones Richmond
              21 Oscar Allen West Coast
              22 Lachie Fogarty Geelong
              29 Charlie Spargo Melbourne
              30 Tom De Koning Carlton
              31 Bayley Fritsch Melbourne

              20 Riley Collier-Dawkins Richmond
              21 Ely Smith Brisbane Lions
              22 Xavier O'Halloran GWS Giants
              29 Will Kelly Collingwood
              30 Will Hamill Adelaide
              31 Luke Foley West Coast

              20 Sam Philp Carlton
              21 Thomson Dow Richmond
              22 Deven Robertson Brisbane Lions
              29 Finn Maginness Hawthorn
              30 Harrison Jones Essendon
              31 Charlie Comben North Melbourne

              20 Max Holmes Geelong
              22 Bailey Laurie Melbourne
              21 Jake Bowey+ Melbourne
              29 Seamus Mitchell Hawthorn
              30 Caleb Poulter Collingwood
              31 Liam McMahon Collingwood

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66301

                Re: Rory Lobb

                Originally posted by Stevo
                Why would we do that? Why overpay?
                I was thinking pick swaps?
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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13207

                  Re: Rory Lobb

                  Originally posted by soupman
                  I don't think pick 21 for Lobb is unreasonable. Sure he's 30 but even 2 good season playing a difficult rand somewhat unique role in a side that is trying to challenge is probably 70% more likely to be better than anything a pick 21 player produces.

                  Draft picks are severely overrated, which again is why I'm amazed how cheap players are being traded for. Acres for pick 40 odd is amazing value, Logue for pick 19ish is amazing.

                  Top 30 draft picks are important in getting talent onto your list, but in and of themselves they are a lucky dip that is rigged against the club.

                  I'd honestly be surprised if there is even a statistically big difference between pick 21 and 30.
                  As a player 21 is definitely unreasonable but he's contracted and he's worth what we are prepared to pay. Pick 21 and Freo are making out like bandits but we may need to do it because we're reasonable and we seem to be really into him.
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • Jasper
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1263

                    Re: Rory Lobb

                    Does Freo need Lobb as much now that the Jackson trade has gone through?
                    It will be the land of the Giants if it's Lobb, Jackson, Tabener and Treacy. Fyfe likely to spend more time forward as well.
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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18932

                      Re: Rory Lobb

                      Originally posted by Jasper
                      Does Freo need Lobb as much now that the Jackson trade has gone through?
                      It will be the land of the Giants if it's Lobb, Jackson, Tabener and Treacy. Fyfe likely to spend more time forward as well.
                      It's a good question. I had heard that were thinking of playing him in a Blicavs type role so if that's true that may be able to keep them all.
                      Be interesting.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44411

                        Re: Rory Lobb

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        It's a good question. I had heard that were thinking of playing him in a Blicavs type role so if that's true that may be able to keep them all.
                        Be interesting.
                        Does he have a Blicavs type tank?
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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18932

                          Re: Rory Lobb

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Does he have a Blicavs type tank?
                          Not sure anyone does

                          I think his endurance is pretty good for a big guy?
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13207

                            Re: Rory Lobb

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Does he have a Blicavs type tank?
                            I don't think he has. Very few do. Blicavs is also good defensively and I think Lobb is a bit more two dimensional.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Rory Lobb

                              Freo now have Pick 44.

                              Assuming they want more than Pick 30. Now Pick 30 & 39 for Lobb & 44. That huge five pick upgrade is ‘more’ than just pick 30. Barely, but it is.
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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11153

                                Re: Rory Lobb

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Freo now have Pick 44.

                                Assuming they want more than Pick 30. Now Pick 30 & 39 for Lobb & 44. That huge five pick upgrade is ‘more’ than just pick 30. Barely, but it is.
                                Yep - about as far as we should be willing to go.

                                I still think this trade gets done. Freo know he really doesn't want to be there, once declined via a trade happens, but twice? Has that ever happened?

                                It's not like they dont have options with Amiss, Treacy, Jackson and Tabener. Lobb is ahead of at least 3, but for the sake of 'moving on' I think they'll pull the trigger.
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