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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10103

    #31
    Re: Liam Jones

    I’m all for it. At worst, it’s a spot we don’t draft at the back end, at best he’s a capable defender who fills our #2 KPD spot with aplomb and gets us back in the top 4 mix.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • F'scary
      WOOF Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 4089

      #32
      Re: Liam Jones

      Originally posted by EasternWest
      Ha ha, now that's funny.

      But I can't work out which way you want to go. Your original comment implied you didn't want him but this one does.
      Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
      Officially on the Bus-wagon

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13170

        #33
        Re: Liam Jones

        Will easily be our best key defender next season.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65834

          #34
          Re: Liam Jones

          Originally posted by F'scary
          Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
          We do need some tall young developing backman, but in the meantime, as they develop Jones can add something to our defence.
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18820

            #35
            Re: Liam Jones

            Originally posted by F'scary
            Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
            Yes agree in part, I don't think we are immune to damage in this sense like other clubs and hopefully Grant and co are smart enough to put the right protections in place.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Bulldog Revolution
              Coaching Staff
              • Dec 2006
              • 3924

              #36
              Re: Liam Jones

              I’m fine with adding Jones - it’s a real credit to him how he turned his career into a success with Carlton

              Provided he’s motivated to be in shape I can see him being good for us - he became a good intercept mark

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10964

                #37
                Re: Liam Jones

                Originally posted by F'scary
                Nah, we need to recruit younger players. We are starting to fall into the top-up trap. I know we got into the grand final last season but I feel we need to build a bit to get another tilt.
                We have not topped up at any stage in our recent history so I'm not sure how we are falling into a top up trap? We have continued to draft young players, along with some older recruits given we are in finals contention. We haven't actually done anything yet this offseason so still too early to judge.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14845

                  #38
                  Re: Liam Jones

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  We have not topped up at any stage in our recent history so I'm not sure how we are falling into a top up trap? We have continued to draft young players, along with some older recruits given we are in finals contention. We haven't actually done anything yet this offseason so still too early to judge.
                  Keath & Bruce & Crozier & Martin & Hannan & Schache...
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65834

                    #39
                    Re: Liam Jones

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    Keath & Bruce & Crozier & Martin & Hannan & Schache...
                    Over how many years? Adding a player here and there, plus young players is smart.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10964

                      #40
                      Re: Liam Jones

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Keath & Bruce & Crozier & Martin & Hannan & Schache...
                      Every club unless they are in full rebuild mode recruits established players. To me topping up is tipping the balance that way at the expense of going to the draft. We have continued to go to the draft (and through good fortune have brought in some top end talent recently). I clearly acknowledged we had brought in some older players as well so not sure what point you are trying to make anyway?

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14845

                        #41
                        Re: Liam Jones

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        Every club unless they are in full rebuild mode recruits established players. To me topping up is tipping the balance that way at the expense of going to the draft. We have continued to go to the draft (and through good fortune have brought in some top end talent recently). I clearly acknowledged we had brought in some older players as well so not sure what point you are trying to make anyway?
                        I was just noting a few players we've added during the years while still holding onto first rounders.
                        Had no idea you'd be so defensive.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14845

                          #42
                          Re: Liam Jones

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Over how many years? Adding a player here and there, plus young players is smart.
                          Exactly. We can add players and still hit the draft. I don't think we're anywhere near a Hawthorn style 'delay the inevitable' trade strategy, especially given the absolute free kicks we've been handed the last two years (Marra and Darcy) and possibly next year if reports on Jordan Croft are accurate.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44089

                            #43
                            Re: Liam Jones

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Exactly. We can add players and still hit the draft. I don't think we're anywhere near a Hawthorn style 'delay the inevitable' trade strategy, especially given the absolute free kicks we've been handed the last two years (Marra and Darcy) and possibly next year if reports on Jordan Croft are accurate.
                            We've been pretty balanced along the journey and have just about always maintained 1st round picks will bringing in experienced players from over clubs from time to time. Over the last couple of years given our NGA and father son picks we have focused a bit more on players from the state leagues with mixed results in adding some experienced types.
                            Mixed results from that effort but that would be expected.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14845

                              #44
                              Re: Liam Jones

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              We've been pretty balanced along the journey and have just about always maintained 1st round picks will bringing in experienced players from over clubs from time to time. Over the last couple of years given our NGA and father son picks we have focused a bit more on players from the state leagues with mixed results in adding some experienced types.
                              Mixed results from that effort but that would be expected.
                              I don't mind giving some state leaguers a chance - McNeill played SANFL and I still think he'll develop nicely. The Big O will lead Brisbane's ruck division this weekend after being plucked from the VFL.
                              I do wish we'd target 'needs' a little more with late speculative picks but that's a topic for a different thread.
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10964

                                #45
                                Re: Liam Jones

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                I was just noting a few players we've added during the years while still holding onto first rounders.
                                Had no idea you'd be so defensive.
                                Sorry but the way you just listed players came across as you refuting my point rather than adding to it.

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