Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

[GVGjr]

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[EasternWest]

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[/COLOR]They have rocks in their heads - I think we have improved.

Quelle surprise.

[Bornadog]

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We lost two premiership players and B&F winners and a decent key forward and back-up defender and replaced them with a key defender who hasn't played for 12 months and a 30yo forward ruck man coming off his best season. I'm not sure if we have improved much but I don't think we've lost much ground either.
Position of needs wise we've done okay.

Out

* Lost Dunkley - ok good player but replaceable with deep midfield. More mid time for Treloar, Smith. Plus he doesn't want to play for us.

* Hunter - trouble maker, off field issues, former good player - something wrong there.

* Cordy - just hasn't done enough since premiership

* Schache - not good enough, had his chances and fluffed it

Replacements

* Lobb - Freo leading goal kicker and second ruck option which we haven't had before

* Jones - former good player - yet to prove he still has it.

* Gained some young players that can fill roles we don't have an abundance of, plus a future first round pick

Overall score:

Out Dunkley in Lobb, so betetr off there as we didn't have the Lobb role before. With others to prove themselves.

Quelle surprise.

Why?

[G-Mo77]

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[/COLOR]They have rocks in their heads - I think we have improved.

I don't think we have. We've lost a lot, filled some holes with Lobb and Jones but on paper we are not a better squad. We'll need some serious rise within the ranks that were apart of the 2022 squad. There are some guys who can step up and I reckon we'll see a bit of Clarke next season but their assessment as it stands right now is pretty spot on IMO.

[azabob]

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[/COLOR]They have rocks in their heads - I think we have improved.

Outside looking in pound for pound we have probably gone backwards but I’m with you BAD I actually think our list will be in better shape for 2023.

[Bornadog]

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Love this

[Pedro Sanchez]

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Out

* Lost Dunkley - ok good player but replaceable with deep midfield. More mid time for Treloar, Smith. Plus he doesn't want to play for us.

* Hunter - trouble maker, off field issues, former good player - something wrong there.

* Cordy - just hasn't done enough since premiership

* Schache - not good enough, had his chances and fluffed it

Replacements

* Lobb - Freo leading goal kicker and second ruck option which we haven't had before

* Jones - former good player - yet to prove he still has it.

* Gained some young players that can fill roles we don't have an abundance of, plus a future first round pick

Overall score:

Out Dunkley in Lobb, so betetr off there as we didn't have the Lobb role before. With others to prove themselves.



Why?

Very well summed up. If Jones clicks down back, we'll be a lot better side with 3 decent options to choose who plays where. Keath, Gards and Jones... Offers flexible match ups and options to chop players out during a match. I like it.

[EasternWest]

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Out

* Lost Dunkley - ok good player but replaceable with deep midfield. More mid time for Treloar, Smith. Plus he doesn't want to play for us.

* Hunter - trouble maker, off field issues, former good player - something wrong there.

* Cordy - just hasn't done enough since premiership

* Schache - not good enough, had his chances and fluffed it

Replacements

* Lobb - Freo leading goal kicker and second ruck option which we haven't had before

* Jones - former good player - yet to prove he still has it.

* Gained some young players that can fill roles we don't have an abundance of, plus a future first round pick

Overall score:

Out Dunkley in Lobb, so betetr off there as we didn't have the Lobb role before. With others to prove themselves.



Why?

Because you're the most upbeat positive poster in the world when it comes to our club.

[Bulldog4life]

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Because you're the most upbeat positive poster in the world when it comes to our club.

He has to be EW to balance against the naysayers. I like to think I am on the positives side too.

[F'scary]

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Dunkley is a big loss. He won't be covered by more Bont, Smith, Libba, Treloar and Macrae because they already had top years too. You can't get much more out of guys who are already giving 100%. It has to come from somewhere else and it has to be someone who digs the ball out. Perhaps West. Daniel can also get in there too. Maybe McLean. I wonder if Williams or Richards could adapt?

[Mofra]

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Dunkley is a big loss. He won't be covered by more Bont, Smith, Libba, Treloar and Macrae because they already had top years too. You can't get much more out of guys who are already giving 100%. It has to come from somewhere else and it has to be someone who digs the ball out. Perhaps West. Daniel can also get in there too. Maybe McLean. I wonder if Williams or Richards could adapt?

We have a very difficult choice to make - do we shuffle the remaining mids (which is now probably the number of mids most clubs use) and cop the inevitable drop off in defensive output?

OR... do we rookie Sullivan and give him alot of midfield time to replicate the defensive pressure we now lack with Dunkley gone? Or hope McLean can play more midfield than forward?

We've lost our reigning B&F and the only 'elite' defensive mid we had on our list so it's not about replacing kicks and handballs. Libba and Bont managed to get 'above average' ratings and I doubt they are the ones who can do much more heavy lifting. Can Macrae/Treloar/BSmith change their games enough to compensate, or will we need to shuffle?

I have to admit, our gameplan seems to start and finish with midfield ball winners so there's a whole 1/3rd (phase) of the game we are likely to be below average in next year.
I'm not sure shuffling talls at either end of the ground does too much to assist this.
If Timmy can somehow become a stronger '2nd effort' ruckman that would help alot - Ben Hudson would make our midfield group work more than a 'gun ruck' would.

[Dogs 24/7]

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He has to be EW to balance against the naysayers. I like to think I am on the positives side too.

So he has given himself the job to counter balance the thoughts of others?

[Dogs 24/7]

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We have a very difficult choice to make - do we shuffle the remaining mids (which is now probably the number of mids most clubs use) and cop the inevitable drop off in defensive output?

OR... do we rookie Sullivan and give him alot of midfield time to replicate the defensive pressure we now lack with Dunkley gone? Or hope McLean can play more midfield than forward?

We've lost our reigning B&F and the only 'elite' defensive mid we had on our list so it's not about replacing kicks and handballs. Libba and Bont managed to get 'above average' ratings and I doubt they are the ones who can do much more heavy lifting. Can Macrae/Treloar/BSmith change their games enough to compensate, or will we need to shuffle?

I have to admit, our gameplan seems to start and finish with midfield ball winners so there's a whole 1/3rd (phase) of the game we are likely to be below average in next year.
I'm not sure shuffling talls at either end of the ground does too much to assist this.
If Timmy can somehow become a stronger '2nd effort' ruckman that would help alot - Ben Hudson would make our midfield group work more than a 'gun ruck' would.

I like our attacking style but there are times when we need to take a more defensive mindset into the midfield assignments. Without Dunkley that becomes infinitely harder. Will we remodel someone else for that role?

[Mofra]

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I like our attacking style but there are times when we need to take a more defensive mindset into the midfield assignments. Without Dunkley that becomes infinitely harder. Will we remodel someone else for that role?

I think we have a three options - play a dedicated tagger (and there is a possibility that Baker could play that role even though we've stated publicly he's a wing option), Sullivan who does tackle gets a rookie spot and gets midfield rotations, or McLean gets Dunkley's midfield time and we hope he plays defensively.

Treloar and Macrae won't do it and I'm not sure it's in Baz's DNA either.

We need a Rowan Jones - a bloke constantly derided by fans who just sacrifices their game and allows the stars (Cousins, Kerr & Judd) to do their thing. Important and hardly recognised for being important.

Given the way we derided Hannan for his efforts in the forwardline, I'd hate to read social media if I was playing that role....

[Bulldog Joe]

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I think we have a three options - play a dedicated tagger (and there is a possibility that Baker could play that role even though we've stated publicly he's a wing option), Sullivan who does tackle gets a rookie spot and gets midfield rotations, or McLean gets Dunkley's midfield time and we hope he plays defensively.

Treloar and Macrae won't do it and I'm not sure it's in Baz's DNA either.

We need a Rowan Jones - a bloke constantly derided by fans who just sacrifices their game and allows the stars (Cousins, Kerr & Judd) to do their thing. Important and hardly recognised for being important.

Given the way we derided Hannan for his efforts in the forwardline, I'd hate to read social media if I was playing that role....

Does McComb get the role?

Advantage for him is that he already cops the bagging on social media.

Also if he plays a defensive role he is less likely to turn the ball over.