Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 19372

    #301
    Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    Trade targets have been James Jordon (22yo), Brynn Teakle (23yo) and Nick Coffield (22yo). We're also trying to get pick 4 to access an elite young player, as well as likely securing Croft. I think that's enough focus on the future?

    I think we're balancing it well. I don't think we are at a point where the list should be completely gutted. If we can replace guys like Roarke, Crozier, Bruce with 22/23yo I think that's a net win.
    What do you think Coffield is worth on the open market JD?

    Former top 10 pick, I get the feeling the Aints might be stupidly wanting overs.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67693

      #302
      Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

      Originally posted by jazzadogs
      Trade targets have been James Jordon (22yo), Brynn Teakle (23yo) and Nick Coffield (22yo). We're also trying to get pick 4 to access an elite young player, as well as likely securing Croft. I think that's enough focus on the future?

      I think we're balancing it well. I don't think we are at a point where the list should be completely gutted. If we can replace guys like Roarke, Crozier, Bruce with 22/23yo I think that's a net win.
      All young players and known quantities unlike some 4th or 5th round 18 year olds
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • Bulldog4life
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 9607

        #303
        Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        I understand the sentiment. I guess there's a bit of being a good citizen involved too and not having a reputation of treating players like commodities, rather like people.
        Flipside, he was all #teamdunks with his choice of clubs. As many wiser have said prior to me leaving isn't the concern as much as the club he chose.

        For that reason it would irk me if he won one up there, however it's a minor irk and he's a Lions player now so pffft.
        I just hope we handled his exit in an optimal fashion (didn't have levers we didn't pull after he went) for the club.
        There was no way the Lions were going to be able to pay what we wanted. Their future first, could've been anything (see Freo).

        In future we need to trade prior to contract expiry if we don't get a solid commitment (except Bont).
        There is a WOOFER who is a keen Lion supporter. Now who is that?

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15481

          #304
          Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          There is a WOOFER who is a keen Lion supporter. Now who is that?
          I know Chef and I are Lions supporters this week, but do we have a legit Lions supporter among us?
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #305
            Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

            Originally posted by azabob
            I know Chef and I are Lions supporters this week, but do we have a legit Lions supporter among us?
            Yes but he will have to come forward himself.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 19372

              #306
              Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
              Yes but he will have to come forward himself.
              I think i've been tagged as such : but it's all lies ...LIES I TELL YA.

              Go Lions.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Eastdog
                WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                • Feb 2012
                • 18376

                #307
                Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                Looking back now we certainly got duded in that trade period and I'm keen to see if we can rectify it this time round.

                Be really good if could improve our draft hand and get in someone in of quality who will be a huge contributor to the team.

                Lobb had a great 2022 but was suspect in 2023. As one woofer said I would have loved players like Bedford, Hill and Acres.
                "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11492

                  #308
                  Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  I think i've been tagged as such : but it's all lies ...LIES I TELL YA.

                  Go Lions.
                  GG at 2:30pm this Saturday:

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #309
                    Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                    Dunkley Trade Official:

                    Brisbane got Dunkley
                    Dogs got Clarke & 1/3 of Pick 5 along with 1/3 of the three third rounders (draft point deficit in the pick swap and two fourths we may/probably won?t use.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #310
                      Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                      If Gresham was end of 1st:

                      Lobb is Pick 33 this year but *could* be around 38 after bids (on top of 30 last year, pushed out to 33 after bids)
                      Hunter gets us Pick 57


                      Hunter looks a little worse
                      Lobb at 33 & 38 (after bids) looks a little better if he re finds form

                      Also we got Pick 39 or 40 for our third & the Hunter pick which offsets this years pick for Lobb. So you could argue loosely that the real cost for Lobb is 33 last year and two thirds this year. If you like that argument, then the cost of Lobb isn’t that high.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #311
                        Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                        So we can do it properly now:

                        I can’t see any official record of a live trade with Sydney, so it’s based off that not happening.

                        Lobb: Picks 33 & 37 after bids (*notionally end of R2 & start of R3 picks)
                        Hunter (after being packaged into Pick 40 and then unpackaged: Freijah (& Coffield with the F3 that was in that unpackaging 40)
                        Schache: Pick deleted/nothing

                        Dunkley: Clarke, 1/3 Sanders, 1/3 Croft, 1/3 of the F3, Lach Smith, AOD (4th we demanded tied to Geelong), Freijah (by packaging up the two F3’s into the F2 which was unpackaged to slightly better picks to get part of Croft, and also Freijah & Coffield)

                        Twomey sees it the way I see it in an article this morning. The Dunkley pick went for Points/Picks. So the trade is now Pick 11 & F1 for Pick 6 & F3 plus getting Freijah.

                        (Huge salary cap relief)


                        So it’s that old chestnut about one good player in Dunkley. Or trading them out and using that trade in a way to acquire with creativity Sanders, Clarke, Croft, Freijah, Smith, AOD & Coffield - who all can be traced to some part of the sprawling Dunkley deal.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 8048

                          #312
                          Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                          I think Sanders alone might make the trade look alright. No pressure kid.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #313
                            Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                            In:

                            Liam Jones
                            Rory Lobb

                            Pick 21 (Clarke Delisted)
                            Future 1st (Lions, traded with two other firsts for Sanders)
                            Future 2nd (Lions, split for draft points)
                            Future 4th (Geelong - used on AOD, Retired)



                            Out:

                            Cordy
                            Schache
                            Hunter (and we pay part of his salary for two years) & the F3 went to Lions
                            Dunkley
                            Pick 30
                            Future Second (ours)
                            Future Third (ours)
                            Future Third (Dees)

                            Charlie Clarke
                            Aiden O?Driscoll



                            Dunkley: Some (very few) points for Croft hardly worth mentioning - split in the Coffield trade with the F4 essentially for Coff. No games from AOD. 1/2 a game from Clarke. 1/3 of Sanders deal including 1/3 points for Croft. That is the return now.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • jazzadogs
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5839

                              #314
                              Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                              Future 1st (Lions, traded with two other firsts for Sanders) - 2023 pick 23, GC, Riley Hardeman

                              Pick 30 2022 - Freo, Hugh Davies

                              Future Second (ours) - pick 37 2023 - Tew Jiath
                              Future Third (ours) - absorbed for points
                              Future Third (Dees) - pick 48 2023 - Tom Anastasopolous

                              Not much of quality or concern that we missed out on...

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #315
                                Re: Rating the 2022 Trade Period - After 7.30pm Wednesday Night

                                Originally posted by jazzadogs
                                Future 1st (Lions, traded with two other firsts for Sanders) - 2023 pick 23, GC, Riley Hardeman

                                Pick 30 2022 - Freo, Hugh Davies

                                Future Second (ours) - pick 37 2023 - Tew Jiath
                                Future Third (ours) - absorbed for points
                                Future Third (Dees) - pick 48 2023 - Tom Anastasopolous

                                Not much of quality or concern that we missed out on...
                                Schache & Hunter no longer playing either. Cordy not doing a great deal to impress at St Kilda. The list of ins and outs is a bit of a mess. Thank God Lobb worked out in defence or he could be elsewhere now too.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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