WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15481

    #361
    Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
    The momentum swung after they kicked their first goal of the final quarter at the 10 minute mark. I would love to see the breakdown from that point onwards.
    Wonder if we will review from that point on?

    The obvious question needs to be asked; do we review these lapses in isolation with a fine tooth comb?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • angelopetraglia
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6926

      #362
      Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

      Originally posted by azabob
      Wonder if we will review from that point on?

      The obvious question needs to be asked; do we review these lapses in isolation with a fine tooth comb?
      Bevo was flat after the presser (really, really low on energy) but spot on with his view. He broke down where they lifted in the middle with some of the changes that they made. They got it to the outside too easily and we coughed up some goals too easy on a night where they were difficult to come from (paraphrasing him). He put the blame squarely on the midfield and not the backs who he complimented had a good night.

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      • angelopetraglia
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6926

        #363
        Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

        With the boys being on the road together for the entire week. You just feel that a win, which would have made it three in a row would have created a real sense of purpose for the season and the energy in the camp would have been immense. That loss is really going to hurt them. Hopefully they can "manufacture" some energy and togetherness this week. Next week away to a Fremantle team which has been under huge pressure is not going to be easy.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15547

          #364
          Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          The second Marshall goal we also defended that quite well considering field position.
          He kicked a blinder.
          He is a beautiful kick, we just have to accept sometimes it's no one's fault and the opposition did very well.
          Yep? I?m more concerned with the freedom that Horne-Francis was given to deliver the ball inside 50.

          The 1st goal was poorly defended, but you almost concede the 2nd one, especially when the deliverer is under limited pressure.

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5839

            #365
            Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

            Originally posted by chef
            Agree, i wasnt that upset about it either. Thought we had a real crack and played well
            The thing that is really frustrating me is how 'samey' the loss was.

            It was fantastic to see us right in the game for 3 and a half quarters. But the capitulation happened the same way it has in the other games - our midfield soundly beaten, a step behind defensively all around the ground, poor decision making.

            It's a really disappointing loss because we were in prime position.

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            • angelopetraglia
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6926

              #366
              Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Yep? I?m more concerned with the freedom they Horne-Francis was given to deliver the ball inside 50.

              The 1st goal was poorly defended, but you almost concede the 2nd one, especially when the deliverer is under limited pressure.
              Well they did two things in three minutes that blew the game apart. They took a big contested mark right in front of goals. We were not able to do that. They then threaded a miracle goal from the boundary where we missed easier chances when we had momentum in the third quarter.

              They needed to do something special to get back into the game and wrestle back control and they got it done. We could not. That is the difference.

              They made the most of their chances in the last quarter. They kicked 4.0 in the last quarter on night where it was difficult to execute.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45546

                #367
                Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Yep? I?m more concerned with the freedom they Horne-Francis was given to deliver the ball inside 50.

                The 1st goal was poorly defended, but you almost concede the 2nd one, especially when the deliverer is under limited pressure.
                Spot on, TOB is made the focus for being out marked rather than why JHF was given plenty of space.
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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19369

                  #368
                  Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs
                  The thing that is really frustrating me is how 'samey' the loss was.

                  It was fantastic to see us right in the game for 3 and a half quarters. But the capitulation happened the same way it has in the other games - our midfield soundly beaten, a step behind defensively all around the ground, poor decision making.

                  It's a really disappointing loss because we were in prime position.
                  Yes transplant that last quarter into the second last week and it has the same feels.

                  No ability to stop the opposition from a midfield perspective. Ability or want I wonder too.

                  Surely JHF and Butters were red flagging in the box. We appeared to do nothing.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • angelopetraglia
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6926

                    #369
                    Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                    13 minute mark of the last quarter. JHF.

                    "Jason Horne-Francis has also been on fire in this quarter, collecting eight disposals, in which six were won in a contested manner, three clearances, four inside 50s (six for the game being retained 83% of the time) and a score launch which resulted in a goal."

                    He started to really carve us up.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67691

                      #370
                      Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                      Originally posted by Grantysghost
                      Yes transplant that last quarter into the second last week and it has the same feels.

                      No ability to stop the opposition from a midfield perspective. Ability or want I wonder too.

                      Surely JHF and Butters were red flagging in the box. We appeared to do nothing.
                      I don't think it was the same - well maybe for 5 minutes while English was off. We had the chance to peg back a goal when Naughton was legged in the square. That goal would have arrested their momentum and anything could happen. In other games like last week's second quarter, we couldn't even get the ball past the centre.
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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19369

                        #371
                        Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        I don't think it was the same - well maybe for 5 minutes while English was off. We had the chance to peg back a goal when Naughton was legged in the square. That goal would have arrested their momentum and anything could happen. In other games like last week's second quarter, we couldn't even get the ball past the centre.
                        Was he legged I though he just muffed it.

                        Fair point you make, not sure I agree however we got smashed in midfield and appeared to not be able to stop it. Again.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • angelopetraglia
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6926

                          #372
                          Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Was he legged I though he just muffed it.

                          Fair point you make, not sure I agree however we got smashed in midfield and appeared to not be able to stop it. Again.
                          Yes. Smashed in the midfield after dominating it for most of the match. That is the disturbing part. The swing that comes from nowhere and our inability to wrestle back control.

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13387

                            #373
                            Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Was he legged I though he just muffed it.

                            Fair point you make, not sure I agree however we got smashed in midfield and appeared to not be able to stop it. Again.
                            He muffed it. Not sure why he didn't go off the ground. Weightman butchered a similar chance in the second.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • SonofScray
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 4284

                              #374
                              Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              Was he legged I though he just muffed it.

                              Fair point you make, not sure I agree however we got smashed in midfield and appeared to not be able to stop it. Again.
                              He was legged, for sure. Bad miss from the umpires.

                              That’s some consolation, that we can point out it as a factor in the loss, I suppose. I miss feeling upset at losses where I thought we were robbed.

                              That 5 minutes BAD noted, that was really telling. 10 minutes of good footy can undo an hour of ours.
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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13387

                                #375
                                Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                13 minute mark of the last quarter. JHF.

                                "Jason Horne-Francis has also been on fire in this quarter, collecting eight disposals, in which six were won in a contested manner, three clearances, four inside 50s (six for the game being retained 83% of the time) and a score launch which resulted in a goal."

                                He started to really carve us up.
                                Wish we had a player like this.

                                Honestly, Bont is a superstar but the calls comparing him as our best ever and as good as EJ need to stop. EJ is a top 5 best player ever to play the game. Bont is a top 5 player in a block of 10-12 years type of player.

                                I will admit that Bont needs more help and spends most of his time trying to keep us in games in the first half and is probably cooked by last and beyond making a contribution.

                                Feel he could be anything in a great team though.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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