WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 19389

    #346
    Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

    How is it over there Danjul apart from the weather?

    Gather round a winner?
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • EasternWest
      Hall of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 10120

      #347
      Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

      Originally posted by lemmon
      Opinion might be a big contrarian, but I'm actually fairly comfortable with last night's performance.

      Going over there and beating a good Port Adelaide side on their home deck during the first Gather Round was going to be a huge task, the Bruce injury let Marshall get on a roll and Horne-Francis carried Port over the line with the crowd behind them.

      I thought the effort was good, we had our moments but Port took back the momentum when it mattered. A loss is never good, but I feel a lot better after that than the mess we saw in the first two rounds.
      Lots of frustrating things happened but I largely agree with this Lem.
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 19389

        #348
        Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

        Originally posted by Danjul
        It is someone?s fault. If billions of 5 year olds can learn something very difficult like a language then surely someone at the western oval can teach 20 year old men where to stand and what to do with the ball in their hands. Two simple things isn?t too much to ask.
        My point is, you can't always control things.

        Everytime Bont does something Bontastic doesn't mean the opposition screwed up; he's just unstoppable at times.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 19389

          #349
          Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

          Originally posted by EasternWest
          Lots of frustrating things happened but I largely agree with this Lem.
          One of the pivotal moves was their tactical sub.

          Dixon went into the ruck and did really well, it also gave our coaches something to think about and they pulled what I believe was the wrong lever resting English (could have worked in the wet) maybe thinking Lobb could cover Dixon.

          They also played tighter on Bont so they changed things up. Fair play to their coaching team.

          The Bruce injury meant Williams went to half back and Toby to a wing think the match ups in key positions stayed the same as Bruce was on Dixon.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15484

            #350
            Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

            Originally posted by Danjul
            I thought it was easy to see why we lost. To be honest it didn?t ever look like we were going to win unless Weightman produced the game of the millennium. Unfortunately he couldn?t get beyond magnificent.

            We went in with a player who gets an insignificant touch of the ball every 20 minutes while having absolute faith that the one who gets their hands on it every 15 minutes will save us.

            Nope, we were never going to win. The regulars on the forward line are a dysfunctional group of individuals who continually get in each other?s way. Very low efficiency plays. The midfielders don?t seem to know how or where to kick, often preferring lightning fast handball to their mates a metre away. Have to feel sorry for the backline with that mess up ahead.

            I was forced to watch the Melbourne-Essendon game. Although also described as football and on the same ground I struggled to believe we were trying to do the same thing. I?m hoping for a miracle during the next week because I have a ticket for the game and I don?t want to be that angry and out in public.
            Danjul any chance you can name the players you are talking about rather than generic statements and stats?
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • EasternWest
              Hall of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 10120

              #351
              Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              One of the pivotal moves was their tactical sub.

              Dixon went into the ruck and did really well, it also gave our coaches something to think about and they pulled what I believe was the wrong lever resting English (could have worked in the wet) maybe thinking Lobb could cover Dixon.

              They also played tighter on Bont so they changed things up. Fair play to their coaching team.

              The Bruce injury meant Williams went to half back and Toby to a wing think the match ups in key positions stayed the same as Bruce was on Dixon.
              Speaking of Williams what has happened to him? He's a shadow of the player he looked like he'd become.
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9901

                #352
                Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                They also played tighter on Bont so they changed things up. Fair play to their coaching team.
                I'm not going to punish myself and watch the last term but talk on socials was that he played forward a lot in the 4th quarter?

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19389

                  #353
                  Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                  Originally posted by G-Mo77
                  I'm not going to punish myself and watch the last term but talk on socials was that he played forward a lot in the 4th quarter?
                  Hmm looks like it comparing heat maps of 3rd v 4th qtrs.

                  Bevo said Drew locked down on him so they must've tried to break the tag and backed the other mids.



                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Danjul
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 1644

                    #354
                    Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    How is it over there Danjul apart from the weather?

                    Gather round a winner?
                    Shows how stressed last night has made me. My carer and spiritual guide has pointed out that that I haven?t got a ticket for next week and actually have plenty of time to regain my composure. The public can relax.

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                    • Scorlibo
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3097

                      #355
                      Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                      Not sure whether to be happy that Bont is starting every game so well or sad that his output drops away as the game progresses. Sure he was tagged last night but it is a clear trend for him so far this season.
                      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                      • SonofScray
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4284

                        #356
                        Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Hmm looks like it comparing heat maps of 3rd v 4th qtrs.

                        Bevo said Drew locked down on him so they must've tried to break the tag and backed the other mids.



                        That’s very frustrating to look at given the first image was what put us in a position to win the game.


                        If anything, drop Bont back perhaps.
                        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5852

                          #357
                          Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                          Some observations:
                          - we lost clearances 17-8 in the final quarter
                          - Of the 6 centre bounces in the final quarter: Bont 3/6, English 4/6, Macrae 4/6, Libba 5/6, Treloar 6/6 (but no clearances), Lobb 2/6
                          - Lobb attended twice as many ruck contests (11) in the final quarter compared to the previous quarters (2,5,6)
                          - Butters had 11 touches, a goal and 4 clearances in the final term, while we watched our best player be willingly/knowingly removed from the contest to 'break' a tag.

                          Bevo and team were outcoached in the second half, especially the final quarter. The Lycett sub and the tagging of Bont by Drew were great moves which we didn't effectively counter.

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6940

                            #358
                            Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                            You can cut and dice the game many different ways. However, this is the compelling part for me.

                            We had contained them to six goals for the entire game. Only one goal in the second half. We then conceded three goals in six minutes. So they were goalless for over 40 minutes. Then we coughed up three in six minutes on a night where goals were rare gold. They had kicked six goals in 3 and 1/2 quarters then in half a quarter they kicked four goals.

                            This trend of conceding multiple goals to the opposition from what looks like absolutely no where is destroying this team. That first 10 minutes we had complete control. We had field position. We had multiple F50 entries. We looked in complete control. We had our chances. They kick one goal and the entire momentum of the game changes.

                            Deja vu

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6940

                              #359
                              Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                              Originally posted by jazzadogs
                              Some observations:
                              - we lost clearances 17-8 in the final quarter
                              - Of the 6 centre bounces in the final quarter: Bont 3/6, English 4/6, Macrae 4/6, Libba 5/6, Treloar 6/6 (but no clearances), Lobb 2/6
                              - Lobb attended twice as many ruck contests (11) in the final quarter compared to the previous quarters (2,5,6)
                              - Butters had 11 touches, a goal and 4 clearances in the final term, while we watched our best player be willingly/knowingly removed from the contest to 'break' a tag.

                              Bevo and team were outcoached in the second half, especially the final quarter. The Lycett sub and the tagging of Bont by Drew were great moves which we didn't effectively counter.
                              The momentum swung after they kicked their first goal of the final quarter at the 10 minute mark. I would love to see the breakdown from that point onwards.

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14750

                                #360
                                Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

                                Originally posted by lemmon
                                Opinion might be a big contrarian, but I'm actually fairly comfortable with last night's performance.

                                Going over there and beating a good Port Adelaide side on their home deck during the first Gather Round was going to be a huge task, the Bruce injury let Marshall get on a roll and Horne-Francis carried Port over the line with the crowd behind them.

                                I thought the effort was good, we had our moments but Port took back the momentum when it mattered. A loss is never good, but I feel a lot better after that than the mess we saw in the first two rounds.
                                Agree, i wasnt that upset about it either. Thought we had a real crack and played well
                                The curse is dead.

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