WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

Was he legged I though he just muffed it.

Fair point you make, not sure I agree however we got smashed in midfield and appeared to not be able to stop it. Again.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

That is unbelievable.

I have watched Carlton play the last weeks. Harry and Curnow get so many soft free kicks. You literally can't touch them without giving away a free kick. Naughton gets held every single week and gets nothing. It is frustrating.

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

That is unbelievable.

I have watched Carlton play the last weeks. Harry and Curnow get so many soft free kicks. You literally can't touch them without giving away a free kick. Naughton gets held every single week and gets nothing. It is frustrating.

That goal, I believe would have made a difference. It would have been 4 points the difference with afew minutes to go. Anything can then happen.

I really hate the way the game is umpired and the rules stink.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

Either way Naughton was average. He should dominate Aliir.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

I just watched the replay of Naughton being legged. I still can't believe how a free kick is not paid. But Naughton doesn't even appeal for a free kick. Harry or Curnow would have thrown their arms out and flopped. I'm not asking him to dive, but does he need to be smart to draw the free kick. He was legged and he doesn't have the ball either.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

Either way Naughton was average. He should dominate Aliir.

To be fair, it wasn't exactly a night to be a forward. Aliir only took four marks for the game. Naughton took two big contested grabs. Four marks in total. He had 13 touches, four scoring involvements, kicked a goal and had one goal assist.

There were a few moments that he would like to have back where Aliir clearly got the better of him. But for a big forward in driving rain I think he did OK. If he gets that free kick at the end. He has two goals for the game. Which would have been a great return on a night like that.

For the record, for the holding and scragging that Aliir did all night. How many free kicks did Naughton get? Zero.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

Aliir's game for the record.

11 touches. 7 kicks. 4 handballs. 4 marks. 4 tackles. 11 intercept. 2 turnovers. 10 pressure acts. 116m gained.

Liam Jones

15 touches. 12 kicks. 2 handballs. 5 marks. 13 intercept. 6 turnovers. 5 pressure acts. 408m gained.


So they had Aliir. We had Jones. Both had an equal impact on the game.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

To be fair, it wasn't exactly a night to be a forward. Aliir only took four marks for the game. Naughton took two big contested grabs. Four marks in total. He had 13 touches, four scoring involvements, kicked a goal and had one goal assist.

There were a few moments that he would like to have back where Aliir clearly got the better of him. But for a big forward in driving rain I think he did OK. If he gets that free kick at the end. He has two goals for the game. Which would have been a great return on a night like that.

For the record, for the holding and scragging that Aliir did all night. How many free kicks did Naughton get? Zero.

I don't disagree but he's kicked 8 goals from 5 games. That's not good enough for a player who is meant to be our key target. I don't think it's unfair to expect more, this is why we pay him accordingly.

Hardly our biggest problem, but for mine our best players do not deliver enough or in the key moments, and our bottom 6 are predictably ineffective.

We'll be nothing until at least one of those are fixed.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

I don't disagree but he's kicked 8 goals from 5 games. That's not good enough for a player who is meant to be our key target. I don't think it's unfair to expect more, this is why we pay him accordingly.

Hardly our biggest problem, but for mine our best players do not deliver enough or in the key moments, and our bottom 6 are predictably ineffective.

We'll be nothing until at least one of those are fixed.

Yes. His goal return is not good enough. But he wasn't the reason we lost last night IMHO.

[Curly5]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

That goal, I believe would have made a difference. It would have been 4 points the difference with afew minutes to go. Anything can then happen.

I really hate the way the game is umpired and the rules stink.

Same happened to Hannan last week. Is there a new rule that any Bulldogs player who gets legged in the goal square mustn't get a free kick?

[jazzadogs]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

I don't disagree but he's kicked 8 goals from 5 games. That's not good enough for a player who is meant to be our key target. I don't think it's unfair to expect more, this is why we pay him accordingly.

Hardly our biggest problem, but for mine our best players do not deliver enough or in the key moments, and our bottom 6 are predictably ineffective.

We'll be nothing until at least one of those are fixed.

How many opportunities has our team actually created for him though? It's a bit of chicken and the egg for me.

I think Naughton has been fine. Last night he frequently had 2 to contend with, as one would try to hold him out while the other defender floated in to mark or spoil.

[soupman]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

How many opportunities has our team actually created for him though? It's a bit of chicken and the egg for me.

I think Naughton has been fine. Last night he frequently had 2 to contend with, as one would try to hold him out while the other defender floated in to mark or spoil.

At least the last couple of weeks he has started to push up outside of the forward 50, so he can be involved in scenarios where it isn't just three tall defenders converging on him.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

How many opportunities has our team actually created for him though? It's a bit of chicken and the egg for me.

I think Naughton has been fine. Last night he frequently had 2 to contend with, as one would try to hold him out while the other defender floated in to mark or spoil.

It's starting to become a cop out for Naughton. 'Well he's competing against 2-3 others what else can he do?'

How about move?

It's like he's the only key forward who gets attention. Move, lead, double back, that's what the best do. He doesn't - he DEMANDS the long ball because he wants to run and jump at it. Sometimes you need to actually offer repeat leads, which ironically is what gets you easy goals, something he's never been able to consistently do.

Curnow/McKay do this so much better.

It sounds like I'm targeting Aaron, but he's a fantastic player who isn't delivering what we need, point blank

[Danjul]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

Danjul any chance you can name the players you are talking about rather than generic statements and stats?

The younger Jones had his 5th possession towards the end of the last quarter. He has contributed little in his games.

I think he is going to be a good player, but he is not ready yet. He has had a taste of the firsts, knows how it all works and should go back to the vfl to practise what he now knows. That?s not criticism, it?s constructive advice and it benefits him, the team and the club.

Lobb had a couple of terrible games overlooked because he was carrying an injury. I thought he was poor last night. He is getting the 90+% game time and the return must be questioned. We got him to be a match winner but last night there was a noticeable momentum swing whenever he was given responsibility away from the goal square. I was hoping his experience would help establish a sense of purpose and organisation around the goals but he is struggling to position himself. In three games he has had 4, 6 and 8 possessions.Historically the Bulldogs of old would not tolerate that, now we spend the week manufacturing excuses. We have seen him function as a match winner so it?s time for the team to adjust to his needs because he doesn?t seem to be able to adjust to our current game plan.

I?ve chosen two forwards because Apart from Weightmans Contribution we only got 4 goals.

The team got a total of 5 goals against St Kilda in perfect conditions (neither of these two played) so it seems the problem goes beyond a few individuals.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: WB Game Day V Port Adelaide R5 2022 Saturday April 15 7:50PM, Adelaide Oval

Most AFL Player Ratings points in Q4...

8.9 - Z. Butters
8.3 - JASON HORNE-FRANCIS
7.6 - T. Marshall
6.3 - D. Houston
5.5 - M. Bontempelli