Sharp Axes

[Vred]

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Just out of interest, is this something Bevo is on board with?

I?m not really sure what the ?Hinkley model? is but I suspect it was thought of somewhat differently before port lost 4 - that?s right, FOUR - in a row!

Port probably have 8 of their best 22 out at the moment, not really an excuse but it doesn't help.

Having assistant coaches run the game plan and the head coach working on morale boosting/sideline coaching isn't just limited to Port, it's been adopted by a few clubs over the years.

Couldn't say if Bevo is onboard with it or not, just that it's the way our football department plan to setup for next season.

[ledge]

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Port probably have 8 of their best 22 out at the moment, not really an excuse but it doesn't help.

Having assistant coaches run the game plan and the head coach working on morale boosting/sideline coaching isn't just limited to Port, it's been adopted by a few clubs over the years.

Couldn't say if Bevo is onboard with it or not, just that it's the way our football department plan to setup for next season.

Sounds like a soccer manager type roll which I’m surprised didn’t come in years ago.

[azabob]

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What street? I find this hard to believe after signing a two year extension.

It is speculation that has been posted on this website and most likely this thread. Probably a few months ago before our five odd wins in a row.

[Grantysghost]

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Just out of interest, is this something Bevo is on board with?

I?m not really sure what the ?Hinkley model? is but I suspect it was thought of somewhat differently before port lost 4 - that?s right, FOUR - in a row!

I can't imagine Bevo agreeing to this in any way.

[jeemak]

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Just out of interest, is this something Bevo is on board with?

I?m not really sure what the ?Hinkley model? is but I suspect it was thought of somewhat differently before port lost 4 - that?s right, FOUR - in a row!

I just don't know how people will feel about having more than one person to blame if things don't go soundly.

[mjp]

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... just that it's the way our football department plan to setup for next season.

So the ‘footy dept’ are going to apply a plan that we are unsure the most important member of the footy dept agrees with? Cool. Cannot see any way that this ends in tears!

I’m so glad to hear that whoever it is (faceless people claiming they made mistakes that have let the coach down) are now going to apply solutions that the coach may or may not want. It’s so awesome.

[Bornadog]

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It is speculation that has been posted on this website and most likely this thread. Probably a few months ago before our five odd wins in a row.

So speculation that has no substance

So the ‘footy dept’ are going to apply a plan that we are unsure the most important member of the footy dept agrees with? Cool. Cannot see any way that this ends in tears!

I’m so glad to hear that whoever it is (faceless people claiming they made mistakes that have let the coach down) are now going to apply solutions that the coach may or may not want. It’s so awesome.

I can't see this is going to work

[azabob]

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So the ‘footy dept’ are going to apply a plan that we are unsure the most important member of the footy dept agrees with? Cool. Cannot see any way that this ends in tears!

I’m so glad to hear that whoever it is (faceless people claiming they made mistakes that have let the coach down) are now going to apply solutions that the coach may or may not want. It’s so awesome.

mjp is our game plan at the cutting edge or do we appear a step behind?

[mjp]

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mjp is our game plan at the cutting edge or do we appear a step behind?

I've no idea.

I don't think we've lost by more than 22 points since the St Kilda game in Round 2. I've seen a thread criticising our % but Carlton have played WCE twice - with Curnow kicking 19 in two games - and we haven't played them once. If you think a couple of 100 point wins might have helped us along with regards percentage, well...Further, we were shafted at Gather Round by being allocated a SA team to play over there...absolute BS fixturing...then there's the Ballarat one week, Darwin the next fixturing which was complete rubbish as well.

Have I been frustrated at times when we have lost close games to Sydney, GWS, GC, Collingwood, Port (twice) and Geelong? Sure. But were all the losses 'game plan' related? Geez - I dunno.

It's hard you know. The lack of continuity in our defensive half is both a genuine reason for our issues and a crutch/convenient excuse. The mess with the recruitment of Lobb (as well as players such as TOB and Hannan - older players who are not best 10-12)...are they coaching related or list management...and how much say does the coach have? A lot or not much or less than he'd like or more than he should?

I am not going to defend Bevo to the death but I worry when I hear that 'people' who are only observers and not decision makers are saying things like 'yeah, we should have done something better last year but we didn't...so THIS year we will DEFINITELY do something'. I don't know Matt Spangher and don't 'really' know Rohan Smith but Marc Webb is an excellent coach and I'm certain he would be a good supporter of Bevo...and I'm equally certain he would be make suggestions and challenging decisions...I'm sure the other guys are as well.

The Skinner reserve thing has been mentioned...I've heard it did create a bit of negativity amongst the group - different venues for different things, nowhere for coffee together etc - and I'm sure it contributed to the lack of team early in the year...I've only been around the team a little bit this year (only one game in Perth) but when they were here they were united and welcoming and seemed happy...they played bloody good footy in that game as well.

Game plan aside, I guess my point is that if Bevo is the man then statements like "It doesn't matter whether or not he likes it, that's what the footy dept is gonna be doing...' are just:
1/. Crap.
2/. Grandstanding.

You've all gotta be in it TOGETHER from Pres on down...establishing an agreed framework (and behaviours) with which to work within...I'm pretty sure 'like it or lump it' as an ultimatum to anyone - let alone to the person who in so many ways is the fulcrum of the footy club - would be outside of any framework anyone could ever imagine.

[Grantysghost]

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It feels like something someone who doesn't like Bevo might make up, with enough surface cred to make it seem legit, leveraging enough confirmation bias to get it shared, however absolutely falls apart under any intelligent scrutiny.

[kruder]

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Had a chat with one of our board members yesterday.

They have heard the criticism of both fans and media this year, the board-member I spoke to admitted they didn't do enough with the assistant changes last season. Without going into too much detail they are looking to move Bevo into more of the Hinkley style coaching role, next season they are looking at setting him as the motivator, managing player relationships, rev ups, on the boundary line on game day etc, they want a host of experienced assistant coaches to set our ''game style'' and run the ''game plan'' on match day with Bevo taking a backseat to actual tactics.

This system has worked well for other clubs, currently Bevo does both, he takes on a huge amount of workload managing both player relationships and the running of game-day, might see a different look/attitude Bevo next season with the changes they want to make.

Right now it's finding a host of experienced assistant coaches to come in that will be key to our success next season.

All they could come up with was bring in Lade from an unsuccessful program after an internal review? We absolutely deserve heat that's for sure I actually feel for Bevo because let's be honest he is the one the is copping it, boards as they usual do make poor decisions without consequence.

That's for the info Vred, always love hearing snippets from inside.

[Bullies]

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How dare you have a go at skinners , that is all through the history of the bulldogs practice matches and the fact I played at sunshine and grew up living on that ground has no bearing on my statement :-)

We were happy to play in mud pits or on rock hard centre wickets and destroy our knees - the precious ones these days not so.

[bulldogtragic]

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The pressure on Bevo is dialled up to 11.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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The pressure on Bevo is dialled up to 11.

Hope he walks. Chris Grant doesn't have it in him to make a hard decision.

[SonofScray]

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Swing it.

Don’t defend him. Don’t make excuses.

Stop it. Take a breath and make a good decision. Axe him and move on.