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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15298

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by jeemak
    A bit light on for traffic around here. Figured I'd bump this one to make sure we're all still aligned on whether the coach is responsible for all outcomes on field.
    Has it been suggested otherwise?

    The coach is responsible for getting the best out of his players, team selection and game style which isn?t where it needs to be.

    And bumping this after a win against team we absolutely own is fraught with danger.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44183

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by JanLorMill
      Good win last night but it does it change the fact that if we don?t win at least 1 final the season is a failure?
      Winning a final is what I would regard as a successful year and for me last nights result really doesn't change that thought.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Bulldog Joe
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jul 2009
        • 5482

        Re: Sharp Axes

        There is still a bit to go and beating Essendon was essential but it was only Essendon who we beat most of the time.

        We still need to make and win finals.
        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11820

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Was everyone so confident we'd beat Essendon at 7:45pm on the 21st of July?
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9873

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by hujsh
            Was everyone so confident we'd beat Essendon at 7:45pm on the 21st of July?
            I was, picked us by 29 points on FootyTips. I was cursing the wasted pick at quarter time though.

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11103

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by jeemak
              A bit light on for traffic around here. Figured I'd bump this one to make sure we're all still aligned on whether the coach is responsible for all outcomes on field.
              Jee, if we either don't make finals or get knocked out in another EF after the coach and administration declared top 4 the expectation, are you happy?

              For me, even winning ONE final isn't good enough for a group that is statistically the second oldest in the league and was specifically geared via recruitment to contend / win a flag. Anything short of a PF is a failure IMO.
              W00F!

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21539

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                Jee, if we either don't make finals or get knocked out in another EF after the coach and administration declared top 4 the expectation, are you happy?

                For me, even winning ONE final isn't good enough for a group that is statistically the second oldest in the league and was specifically geared via recruitment to contend / win a flag. Anything short of a PF is a failure IMO.
                Old doesn't equal good though, does it? It just means we need to look at our list critically and address its weaknesses, which we all acknowledge.

                Winning a final is the target, and any team who has made the eight should be aiming for top four. That's a stated ambition of ours and it absolutely should be our ambition.

                I just think so much has to go right for us to make it. Because of our deficiencies our margin for error is wafer thin which is why I don't understand the hysteria when we don't win or the lack of enjoyment when we play well. There's always a but this, or a but that in the case of the latter.

                A side that has Khamis as second ruck, Keath, Bruce and Gardner as defensive pillars, and West, Baker, Poulter and VDM in it is expected to trounce a top eight contender and make top four. Does that really stack up? Is it a great coaching effort to get these guys to win by seven goals? Great committed effort from the players to execute a plan?
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21539

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  I could add Duryea to that list of defensive pillars, because most people think he's cooked. So that's four key roles in defence that are filled by players many don't think are up to it. Does that sound like a defence that should be taking us to top four?
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • SonofScray
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4204

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    A bit light on for traffic around here. Figured I'd bump this one to make sure we're all still aligned on whether the coach is responsible for all outcomes on field.
                    Was a good performance by a talented team.
                    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18854

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by SonofScray
                      Was a good performance by a talented team.
                      What did you think of the move after quarter time to even out the forward < - > defence numbers?

                      Thought it was game changing. Baz also killed it with his forward pressure.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • SonofScray
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 4204

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        What did you think of the move after quarter time to even out the forward < - > defence numbers?

                        Thought it was game changing. Baz also killed it with his forward pressure.
                        We definitely saw benefits from that when they went to switch the footy. Rarely got beyond the two possessions before a contested scenario. The way Essendon tackled the puzzle we presented reminded me of Brisbane’s effort earlier the year. They made a mess of it.
                        Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7706

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          A bit light on for traffic around here. Figured I'd bump this one to make sure we're all still aligned on whether the coach is responsible for all outcomes on field.
                          Who knows. We could drop an absolute egg next week and the same questions will get raised. That's the problem with the group. Inconsistent. Unpredictable. Week to week. Quarter to quarter.

                          The effort last night was superb and finally sustained. But we barely see it for longer than 10 minutes a quarter usually.

                          Last night our effort was good enough to knock off a midling team but I'm pretty sure we'd have been blown away by the top 5 during either the first quarter or the first half of the 3rd.

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                          • EasternWest
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 9988

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            What did you think of the move after quarter time to even out the forward < - > defence numbers?

                            Thought it was game changing. Baz also killed it with his forward pressure.
                            Baz was good last night dunno why jeemak keeps banging on about trading him.
                            "It's over. It's all over."

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65958

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              Baz was good last night dunno why jeemak keeps banging on about trading him.
                              Is Jeemak and Aza the same person?
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                              • EasternWest
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 9988

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Is Jeemak and Aza the same person?
                                Yes.
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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