Sharp Axes

[angelopetraglia]

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Football for me is just not about winning or losing. The winning makes it more fun. No doubt. But the journey is what it it about. The shared journey that unites me with my family, friends and the wider Bulldog community on this crazy, crazy ride. Win or lose, we are still going to the game together. Share a meal, share a laugh, share the pain or share the joy.

I have been a member for 40 consecutive years this year (hooray for me). I will continue to be a member rain, hail or shine. So that is another four memberships and reserved seats for my family and another four memberships and reserved seats for my extended family.

[Bornadog]

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Football for me is just not about winning or losing. The winning makes it more fun. No doubt. But the journey is what it it about. The shared journey that unites me with my family, friends and the wider Bulldog community on this crazy, crazy ride. Win or lose, we are still going to the game together. Share a meal, share a laugh, share the pain or share the join.

I have been a member for 40 consecutive years this year (hooray for me). I will continue to be a member rain, hail or shine. So that is another four memberships and reserved seats for my family.

Great stuff AP. I am similar to you and got my 50 consecutive membership years scarf that I now wear to games.

Naturally I am hurting badly (as we all are), but on to the next game.

[bulldogtragic]

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Membership is not just about getting tickets to a game. It is more than that.

If people want to join when we win, fine and not join when we lose fine. I actually don't get that attitude.

I don’t think SoS is saying that in the slightest. He says he has been a member in worse times. Hence he is not about winning.

I think he’s articulating frustration with the club and inaction that could damage our onfield chances for a while longer and has come to a point where his only recourse to demonstrate to the club his unhappiness is to withhold his membership pending action. He can speak for himself though.

But having researched a range of behaviours, I can understand that human behaviour is such that if you have limited avenues to protest what you think is ongoing mistakes, then you use what you have.

Broadly speaking I agree I don’t understand only buying memberships if we are winning. But I don’t think there’s many, if any, on this forum in that category. Especially not SoS, not saying you were calling him out on that either.

[Bornadog]

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I don’t think SoS is saying that in the slightest. He says he has been a member in worse times. Hence he is not about winning.

I think he’s articulating frustration with the club and inaction that could damage our onfield chances for a while longer and has come to a point where his only recourse to demonstrate to the club his unhappiness is to withhold his membership pending action. He can speak for himself though.

But having researched a range of behaviours, I can understand that human behaviour is such that if you have limited avenues to protest what you think is ongoing mistakes, then you use what you have.

Broadly speaking I agree I don’t understand only buying memberships if we are winning. But I don’t think there’s many, if any, on this forum in that category. Especially not SoS, not saying you were calling him out on that either.

Didn't call out SOS or anyone on WOOF - comment was a general one from what I have read on socials. Their choice, which I don't understand.

[bulldogtragic]

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Didn't call out SOS or anyone on WOOF - comment was a general one from what I have read on socials. Their choice, which I don't understand.

I agree with the principle. Shit or get off the pot if winning is the sole prerequisite of membership. Or those that threaten to nuke their membership after every loss.

But I think we are moving into choppy water when long term members are starting to saying openly that the only recourse I have to try to get my message through to the club is withhold membership until there’s something positive or proactive being done. I look at this sentiment as the big takeaway for where we are right now. People can say what they want on social media…

But in here, in long term tragics the breath this club, Ive just (this morning) read many different posters write about withholding membership, the joy being sucked out of footy by this side, a lack of hope, a lot of frustration at most aspects of the club etc and with long term posters quitting watching footy altogether. When people who spends hours every day reading or writing about this club, who are level headed committed people of the RWB, are so exasperated to take the time to articulate that the club in its current form is all the things just mentioned. That’s the thing that grabs my attention. And if the club doesn’t want to address this in time then it ignores it at its own peril. Just observing posters comments this morning, I think the circumstances have changed and we are about to hit a critical moment in what the club decides or not decides to do.

[mjp]

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I think the circumstances have changed and we are about to hit a critical moment in what the club decides or not decides to do.

What do you think they WILL do BT?

[FrediKanoute]

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Didnt watch the game. Was in Perth walking around Fremantle. I did follow the scores and saw we established a lead and then went a long period without a goal with The Hawks putting on 5 and then they jumped us at the start of the 4th. I knew the script and pretty much predicted the result at the start of the 2nd when the Hawks got a couple of goals. The script is the same script that we have been following since at least 2021. Get lead. Give up lead. Lose. Don't stop runs of goals etc. Now we have been better this year in that the run of goals have generally not come as quickly as they came in the 2021 GF, but it means a 3 to 5 goal lead is not enough, we are still vulnerable!

The Bulldogs since 2016 have been underachievers. We have blown a golden generation of players (not for the first time) and a generational talent in Bontempelli. The team should have been regular top 4 finishers and made more than just 2 GF's. This season we had all the pieces in place - mobile 2nd ruck/forward; emerging forward line; strong midfield; established ruck; ample talls; backline run. Yet we find ourselves repeating what we have done in previous seasons, struggling to fall into the 8; losing to bottom half teams; failing to close games out.

I liked what I saw post round 2. Yet we got ourselves to a point where we could get into the top 4 and proceeded to lose to the Suns sparking a run of losses. undoing the good work. 4 wins from our last 11 is poor for a team loaded with talent. Getting into the finals masks the problems we have. I don't think they are skills or talent related, but more personnel and tactics. The coach has to bear the responsibility. Either the message is stale, the playing group too comfortable, or the plan is flawed.

I was ok with us signing Bevo at the end of last year. If the club hadn't the whole season would have been about will he/wont he sign. If we had made the tope 4 or the GF or won the flag and then lost Bevo people here and elsewhere would have been ropable. I was also ok with having to pay him out if he underachieved. This is where I am today. I think its time. Scraping into the finals is not a pass mark. Holding onto Bevo for another season allowing another year of Bontempelli to drift into oblivion is irresponsible. There are a number of coaches I think have the ability to take the group forward sitting on the sidelines - experienced coaches like Buckley, and Cameron. Young coaches like Ash Hansen, Gia, Boyd. Its time for new ideas. Bevo will always be a special part of the Bulldogs, but his time is up.

[mjp]

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Didnt watch the game. Was in Perth walking around Fremantle.

How was Freo?

Where did you go? Sure was a beautiful day!!

[angelopetraglia]

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David King. "I think it demands a full review ..." https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1...176081409?s=20

[SonofScray]

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David King. "I think it demands a full review ..." https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1...176081409?s=20

Didn't we do a review already?

FFS.

[jeemak]

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David King. "I think it demands a full review ..." https://twitter.com/1116sen/status/1...176081409?s=20

Their talented list that has holes all over it, has no depth, and one defensive tall (who hasn't played for half the season give or take) that would get a game in most top twelve sides........everyone says our list is super talented but doesn't really think about it. It's maddening.

[Bornadog]

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Their talented list that has holes all over it, has no depth, and one defensive tall (who hasn't played for half the season give or take) that would get a game in most top twelve sides........everyone says our list is super talented but doesn't really think about it. It's maddening.

Totally agree. Keath is flaky at best and can't really hold down that role, and I am not happy with our wings. Poulter improving and Baker adequate at best

[angelopetraglia]

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Their talented list that has holes all over it, has no depth, and one defensive tall (who hasn't played for half the season give or take) that would get a game in most top twelve sides........everyone says our list is super talented but doesn't really think about it. It's maddening.

Yes. The analysis is very poor to be honest right across the media with very few exceptions.

[jeemak]

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Absolutely analyse and review the shit out of us but at least be honest about the capability of the resources available.

If you can't do that then you're missing the entire point.

[angelopetraglia]

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Absolutely analyse and review the shit out of us but at least be honest about the capability of the resources available.

If you can't do that then you're missing the entire point.

But lets be honest. They are not in the let's ensure we are accurate and insightful business. They are in the entertainment business. Whatever gets the most eyeballs and clicks is what they promote. That is the business model.

Famous Charlie Munger quote. “Show me the incentive and I’ll show you the outcome”.