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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15194

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by MrMahatma
    There's a mute option!?!
    Sorry, i can't see this post, its just blank
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7295

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      But can coaches accept less than ideal levels of effort and in a way endorse it?
      Nope. When effort isn't at the required level you hold the individuals accountable without prejudice.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Vred
        Senior Player
        • Nov 2018
        • 1295

        Re: Sharp Axes

        I have a feeling we're about to have a 2014-15 like off season...
        [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by Vred
          I have a feeling we're about to have a 2014-15 like off season...
          What have you heard? Fess up!
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Vred
            Senior Player
            • Nov 2018
            • 1295

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            What have you heard? Fess up!
            Nothing I want to put my name to, but a thread has popped up on BigFooty called ''Future of the club''

            Even if 50% of it is on the money, it's gonna be a wild ride.
            [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by Vred
              Nothing I want to put my name to, but a thread has popped up on BigFooty called ''Future of the club''

              Even if 50% of it is on the money, it's gonna be a wild ride.
              On that I checked BF for the first time in about 15 years. Is the poster reliable?
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Vred
                Senior Player
                • Nov 2018
                • 1295

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                On that I checked BF for the first time in about 15 years. Is the poster reliable?
                According to most all the posters there, yes. I only read BF when I'm bored at work, I don't even have an account, but I've seen a few of his posts come true (vitaltread and smileyboy also have some very good information from time to time).
                [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by Vred
                  According to most all the posters there, yes. I only read BF when I'm bored at work, I don't even have an account, but I've seen a few of his posts come true (vitaltread and smileyboy also have some very good information from time to time).
                  Well if the Gordon & Bont stuff is real, in particular, then there might be interesting times ahead.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • SonofScray
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4204

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Well if the Gordon & Bont stuff is real, in particular, then there might be interesting times ahead.
                    It reads a bit melodramatic, but it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility.

                    The Bont aspect, I wish we weren’t putting him in that scenario if true. That’s Grant and Bains failing.
                    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65958

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by Vred
                      I have a feeling we're about to have a 2014-15 like off season...
                      Just a reminder we won 7 games in 2014 and had a percentage of 82%.

                      Pretty sure things are different now
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by SonofScray
                        It reads a bit melodramatic, but it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility.

                        The Bont aspect, I wish we weren’t putting him in that scenario if true. That’s Grant and Bains failing.
                        Grain of salt at this point, but if true points at some internal ructions ahead.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9873

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Interesting read on BF.

                          There have been murmurs of Bont and Bevo not seeing eye to eye before. Hmmm.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65958

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by G-Mo77
                            Interesting read on BF.

                            There have been murmurs of Bont and Bevo not seeing eye to eye before. Hmmm.
                            When?
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Hot_Doggies
                              Rookie List
                              • May 2009
                              • 396

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Craziest thing in that Big Footy post is ‘the club thinks we are in the premiership window’!

                              We have a promising forward line and Bont.

                              We have three midfielders who are considered ‘A grade’ -Treloar, Macrae and Libba who basically play the same role and are all one paced and nearing the end. I don’t see how we can compete with all those three in the side.

                              We are in the perfect spot for a mini rebuild via the draft.

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                              • angelopetraglia
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6774

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Here is the Big Footy post for those interested:

                                Instead of hijacking several other threads and making them off topic probably best to consolidate information into one as it has a bit of a broader spectrum than ''Do we trust Bevo'' and ''what are the media saying?''

                                Ill break this down into two categories and I'll keep it updated as much as I can.

                                More concrete (Via various different sources, both inside and outside the club, i trust it enough to put it here)

                                -Up until about a month ago, KWW/Ameet/board were all very much ''Bevo has the safest job in football''. The decision to extend Luke's contract another 2 years was a unanimous decision by the board, president and CEO, no one thought it would recieve the backlash that it did, as I'm told some members were even ''surprised'' how the media was harping on about ''why sign him now''..
                                -We did do an internal review last year headed up by Ameet but by all reports it was fairly half-assed and the conclusion was ''more help for Beveridge''
                                -Losses to Sydney, GWS and Hawks have started to change the tune of some of our stead-fast board members
                                -David Smorgan has started airing his concerns to old friends at the club
                                -Peter Gordon earlier in the year scoffed publicly (well, at a Gordon Legal party) about how poorly the Dogs are doing / how disappointed he is with how the club is being run / doesn't think Bevo is the right man for the job anymore - This was witnessed by a few people including a current sitting board member, this got back to Bevo and others at the club and got some noses very out of joint
                                -Change at both coaching and board level was going to happen at the end of this season regardless of season outcome, this was a conclusion made early in the season.
                                -After Hawks loss PG has sent off some very nasty messages to a number of higher ups at the club airing his disgust and questioning ''what is going on at his beloved Dogs?''
                                -Bont was ''inconsolable'' and ''The most pissed off anyone has seen him'' after the Hawks loss, had a 1:1 meeting with Ameet not long after the loss.
                                -Ameet's tune about Bevo has seemingly changed over night.
                                -Ameet (with backing of the board) was the one to instigate the firing of Rohan Smith. Rohan doesn't have as bad of health issues as Bevo and co have made out, he can fully function day to day. He was fired over text message, something I strongly, strongly disagree with. I cannot say if Rohan wanted to continue on coaching / Bevo wanted him to stay on (Smiley Boy will have the insight here)
                                -The plan before the loss to the Hawks was to completely clean our assistant coaching ranks and bring in the best we can, even going over soft cap to do so just to stabilize the ship and get us where we want to be (the club strongly believes we are in the window).
                                -We would have to pay out Luke's entire contract if we decided to get rid of him early, currently that's until the end of 2025.

                                Less Concrete

                                -Since the Hawks loss, Ameet is gunning to also replace Luke but doesn't have the support to do it
                                -Talk of a board spill due to some Beveridge die-hards who want to keep the status-quo, possibly spearheaded by an old President-
                                -Mat Inness will be moved on at the end of the season
                                -Lade will also be leaving during this off season, big personality clash with Bevo, his contracted for one more year but if he finds something elsewhere the club won't stand in his way.
                                -Webb is going back to WA
                                -If the above two things happen, our only remaining assistant coach is Matty S, the memes write themselves
                                -Bevo's contracted money is finally thinning out allowing us more cash to throw at assistant coaches (Was front loaded)
                                -Chris Grant is selling the house his lived in for the last 400 years, might be moving on??? (pure speculation)-
                                -We've asked Leon Cameron (again) to come on as an assistant
                                -We've asked Stewy Dew to come on as an assistant

                                I'll keep this updated as I get information sent my way. A week is a long time in football, things can change farking quickly.

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