Sharp Axes

[1eyedog]

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BF used to be a dirty word round here.

[GVGjr]

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BF used to be a dirty word round here.

Not a dirty word from my perspective but you can understand how a contribution containing so many bullet points with a negative theme gather momentum with disenchanted fans after a couple of losses.

[Virgin-Dog]

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While it might make for an interesting read given some of our on-field challenges, the post copied over from BF is not accurate and makes many incorrect claims. How so many bullet points are assembled and then considered as in anyway realistic is beyond me.
In my opinion you should basically ignore it.

There has been some good discussions in this thread and they're most welcomed to be continued but lets put that BF speculation to bed from here as it adds nothing to the discussion.

The dead giveaway is the sheer quantity of claims. Last time we had a minor leaker (the whole Tom Morris saga) Bevo lost his shit and it became a media circus. These dot points amount to 10x what was leaked back then. Our administration would be going nuclear right now if even half of this was accurate. The BF poster doesn’t have any actual credibility anyway so really nothing to worry about. I think it’s easy to conclude people are not happy behind the scenes, and it’s a poorly kept secret that we’ve got assistant coaching changes coming, but anything beyond that is baseless speculation for now

[Bornadog]

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The MSM are really a pack of Hypocrites.

If you look at these predictions - see here and also here not one so called footy expert tipped us as Top 4, and some had us dropping out, yet they sink the boots in saying what a great list we have and should be top 4.

[1eyedog]

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Not a dirty word from my perspective but you can understand how a contribution containing so many bullet points with a negative theme gather momentum with disenchanted fans after a couple of losses.

Yes easy enough to understand.

[CarnTheScray]

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I?ve tried joining that discord before but all links I could find are expired. Is it closed off or open to anyone?

Yeah only the admins can create invite links. If you have a Reddit account just post in the Bulldogs subreddit (probably the most inactive of the bulldog forums but someone should respond within a day) asking for an invite.

[SonofScray]

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The MSM are really a pack of Hypocrites.

If you look at these predictions - see here and also here not one so called footy expert tipped us as Top 4, and some had us dropping out, yet they sink the boots in saying what a great list we have and should be top 4.

In our soehere though, it’s not what the pundits think. It’s what we as a whole club think. The club set themselves for a top four finish, the fans believe it, we’ve all behaved that way. And we’ve failed. Again.

[mjp]

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The MSM are really a pack of Hypocrites.

Pretty sure Cornes and King both tipped us to finish 5th.

[Bornadog]

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Pretty sure Cornes and King both tipped us to finish 5th.

Then why the carry on that we aren't finishing top 4

[mjp]

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Then why the carry on that we aren't finishing top 4

I don't really have any issue on them putting the blow-torch to our feet.

I'm more frustrated than upset because we do seem 'close' and if I was coaching I would have genuine pause as to what the right course of action to take would be. I would WANT to make some pretty fundamental changes however given what we are doing seems to work so well for large tracts of the game...

Further, it isn't as if we have been losing the 'same way' (even though it simplistically seems that way).

I think everyone assumes the Sydney loss has been repeating itself - dominating possession, unable to score, defenders getting high and conceding goals on the way back - but that isn't really true. I mean, versus the Giants we lost two key backs - really 3 if you believe the stories about the Gardner injury - and is sort of a Mulligan in so many ways...then Hawthorn belted us around the ball in q3 which basically NEVER happens. So - do we react to that?

Arguing they said we should finish 5th which isn't top 4 therefore they shouldn't have a go at us for not being top 4 is flawed though...we are 8th and have lost a heap of games lately. YES - they've been close losses but ultimately the points have gone the other way.

I'm sure the coaches are fine - they are doing the job they are well paid to do and media scrutiny is implied in the paypacket - but I do feel sorry for them in trying to navigate their way through this...the differences between our best and our worst is 100% a concern...that we can start a day playing well but then seemingly go away from that formula is puzzling.

And yep, Naughton missed two goals he should have kicked. 100%. But at the same time he led the way in q3 in terms of effort, passion and just plain old grunt and literally killed himself trying to provide a target/win the ball back...it was inspirational to be honest (not that anyone else seemed to be inspired).

I'm just going over and over the same stuff (I know) but I haven't really EVER seen anything like this.

[Grantysghost]

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Then why the carry on that we aren't finishing top 4

Kornes is just about sensationalism. Not the most respected path, but that's the one he's chosen.

I mean Kano's volcano what more do you need to know about that guy.

King. Well....says a lot without saying anything.

[Bornadog]

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I don't really have any issue on them putting the blow-torch to our feet.

We deserve to have the blowtorch aimed at us, no problems from me. My gripe is deeper than that with these so called experts of the game, and maybe my throw away lines are not explaining anything.

David King tries to portray himself as the expert analyst of games yet his simplistic explanations don't cut it. I had a bit of a stoush with him on twitter, following the GWS game and his only solution was that Naughton should have gone back instead of Lobb and we would have won. I pointed out the issue was the non existence of forward pressure resulting in zero stoppages in the last quarter, and the ball pinging straight back down the ground for a goal. He wouldn't except that.

As for Cornes, he just tries to be a shock jock, and sometimes tells some home truths we don't want to hear and Caro is constantly trying to dig up dirt.

What I am trying to say is, give us more than throw away lines (like me, but I am not the expert), and tell us what the issues are. Look at the list and and tell us what you think are the gaps, and why we don't win close games. Don't just say well they have the cattle but can't finish top 4, yet at the start of the season they didn't even rate us. You want to be the expert then show some expertise.

Hopefully you get where I am coming from.

[GVGjr]

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Please lets not take this thread off course with a mainly media critical theme. The points been made.

[Grantysghost]

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Please lets not take this thread off course with a mainly media critical theme. The points been made.

Do we think we are a realistic chance of landing a Cameron or Dew G?

I don't recall the last time, if ever, we have had a former senior coach on our panel.

[The Doctor]

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I don't recall the last time, if ever, we have had a former senior coach on our panel.

Barry Richardson! Remember the glory days when he was the grey head providing support to our Mastermind?