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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65958

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by Mofra
    Filtered for 'same age':


    Tackles & DE on Arty's side, disposals and goals (0.6 to 0.3) on Henry's side.
    Not much in it
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • macca
      Coaching Staff
      • Sep 2007
      • 2352

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by Mofra
      Filtered for 'same age':


      Tackles & DE on Arty's side, disposals and goals (0.6 to 0.3) on Henry's side.
      The positive I take from Picking up Henry is , he has played 43 games with all the investment and sT!$#$%T games being paid by Fremantle. I hope we are getting him in his prime.

      The negative is how many of those game has he actually played good in best 6 players and can he do it consistently ? He averages 1 tackle a game vs 2.7 games with Arty ( 13 games)

      More upside it seems with him.

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      • meenies
        Rookie List
        • May 2014
        • 207

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Richards replaced Wood who was past used by date.
        Jong, while I loved him, was more out than in for many seasons so only had limited impact game day
        Hunter gone to me has affected Jack Mc more than we realise as they were the 1-2 pair like Bont-Libba. Just knew where each were and combined so well. That chemistry has not been replaced.
        Dunkley missed most as we have not had a direct replacement (ie. playing West or McComb or Toby to play that way) and other midfielders have not brought their creative efforts to maximise the flexibility in there.
        Also, far too many injuries for newbies coming in to build continuity into their games, thus restricting who we can use.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21539

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Filtered for 'same age':


          Tackles & DE on Arty's side, disposals and goals (0.6 to 0.3) on Henry's side.
          That's key to my question. Do we think Arty can take the leap Henry has over the next year?
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21539

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by macca
            The positive I take from Picking up Henry is , he has played 43 games with all the investment and sT!$#$%T games being paid by Fremantle. I hope we are getting him in his prime.

            The negative is how many of those game has he actually played good in best 6 players and can he do it consistently ? He averages 1 tackle a game vs 2.7 games with Arty ( 13 games)

            More upside it seems with him.
            He averaged that at the same age, but this last season Henry averaged 2.6 tackles a game.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Danjul
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2019
              • 1601

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Not much in it
              From what I have seen of Arthur Jones this year in both vfl and afl the only conclusion is he is not ready for senior football. Just doesn?t get the ball enough.

              Against Geelong in a close game 5 possessions. Next week in a close game against Port zero possessions. Went back to the Vfl and got 10 possessions in three games. 15 possessions in5 consecutive games at both levels. That was enough for people to demand further selection in the firsts. When he got back into the firsts he was very poor, contributed nothing. Worst player I have seen. Yet everyone raves about him. What am I missing?

              His development has been set back badly. Let him learn.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65958

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by Danjul
                From what I have seen of Arthur Jones this year in both vfl and afl the only conclusion is he is not ready for senior football. Just doesn?t get the ball enough.

                Against Geelong in a close game 5 possessions. Next week in a close game against Port zero possessions. Went back to the Vfl and got 10 possessions in three games. 15 possessions in5 consecutive games at both levels. That was enough for people to demand further selection in the firsts. When he got back into the firsts he was very poor, contributed nothing. Worst player I have seen. Yet everyone raves about him. What am I missing?

                His development has been set back badly. Let him learn.
                I don't disagree at all. I was responding to the comparison of him v Henry at the same age and their stats are about the same.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Bullies
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 1807

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by macca
                  The positive I take from Picking up Henry is , he has played 43 games with all the investment and sT!$#$%T games being paid by Fremantle. I hope we are getting him in his prime.

                  The negative is how many of those game has he actually played good in best 6 players and can he do it consistently ? He averages 1 tackle a game vs 2.7 games with Arty ( 13 games)

                  More upside it seems with him.
                  Henry we are chasing more for his run and carry and delivery. Any tackles would be a bonus but sometimes you need to target players for the teams deficiency which for us is pace. Some of the bottom 6 players need to take on the tackling side as they don't offer much else.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Well, the season is over.

                    So hurry up with the change. No time to spare.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • SonofScray
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 4204

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Goodbye Bevo.
                      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11104

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        I think beating Geelongs thirds has probably saved him.
                        W00F!

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                          I think beating Geelongs thirds has probably saved him.
                          If that’s the cover, it’s a joke.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44183

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by SonofScray
                            Goodbye Bevo.
                            While I admire your determination to push that barrow but how realistic do you think it is that Bevo won't be coaching us at least at the start of next year?
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • DOG GOD
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 6378

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                              I think beating Geelongs thirds has probably saved him.
                              Yep.
                              I will never see #16 the same!!

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13178

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                While I admire your determination to push that barrow but how realistic do you think it is that Bevo won't be coaching us at least at the start of next year?
                                Zero chance Bevo isn't at the club next year and the sack Bevo calls are becoming tiresome.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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