Sharp Axes

[hujsh]

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This blunt instrument of a thread, contradictory of its name is going to get a bit of a workout the next couple of weeks.

To me at a conceptual level it's been a bit of a joke. Like chopping a head off is a great way to solve a problem. A means to an end. However, you can't argue against the veracity of the emotions and actions it's delivered over a period of time and as such, it deserves a place in WOOF history as one of the best no matter the outcome.

It takes a bit of balls to start a thread like this, and I know a bit about how shit can turn when you do. Kudos to SoS for keeping us interested. Great thread.

[jeemak]

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I'm so into myself.

[AshMac]

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There is no scenario this year where the question of whether Bevo coaches next year is queried.

Yep, I agree now. I think if the halves of the year swapped pre and post bye - it?d be a different conversation. Starting poor and finishing well has saved him IMO.

I?ll admit, I wanted blood by round 10. Has probably shown enough though over the season.

Do think we were screwed with the fixture first half of season too. Round 0, playing brisbane after 2 byes, gather round home game against Geelong - one of those games has a different outcome and we?re still going for top 4

[GVGjr]

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This blunt instrument of a thread, contradictory of its name is going to get a bit of a workout the next couple of weeks.

To me at a conceptual level it's been a bit of a joke. Like chopping a head off is a great way to solve a problem. A means to an end. However, you can't argue against the veracity of the emotions and actions it's delivered over a period of time and as such, it deserves a place in WOOF history as one of the best no matter the outcome.

It takes a bit of balls to start a thread like this, and I know a bit about how shit can turn when you do. Kudos to SoS for keeping us interested. Great thread.

Totally agree, there were some concerning signs with how the club and in particular how the coach was performing and I credit SoS with starting a difficult thread and posing some hard questions.
Of course opinions varied but the discussions and thoughts shared have been done in the right way. There was a pro Bevo and club group and of course it was balanced by a group questioning why the club wouldn't make a coaching change early in the season.

I know my own thoughts and opinions changed throughout the season as this discussion evolved. While a lot might depend on how we perform at Ballarat on Sunday I'm hoping what we have all seen so far during the season shows that we aren't in bad shape and that a coaching change isn't actually required. No

[MrMahatma]

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You don't sack a dude the year he wins the flag. So Bevo is safe this season.

And the next 3.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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I've certainly been delighted with the changes seen this season. Particularly with match selection. Whether Bevo is still the man to take this list forward or not remains an open question for me. But he certainly deserves to at least see out his contract.

Sunday will of course get the burners going again if we lose and miss finals but I would have taken 13 wins at the start of the season. Especially if you'd had told me we knocked off Carlton, Geelong (at sedat park), Sydney and Melbourne in succession. The 2 Adelaide games and the essendon one were the low points. We also benefited from a good run with injuries but 100% it finally feels we're headed in the right direction.

[mjp]

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Sunday will of course get the burners going again if we lose...

To me, it's not the IF...I can deal with losing. It's always the 'HOW'.

If we lose the way we did vs Adelaide I will be annoyed but goal kicking and shooting ourselves in the foot is not the coaches fault.
If we lose the way we did against Port or (with more relevance) in the elimination final we played up at Blacktown all those years ago (the one where GWS bashed us up) I will be much more than annoyed.

[Bornadog]

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in the elimination final we played up at Blacktown all those years ago (the one where GWS bashed us up) I will be much more than annoyed.

we were inexperienced babies then, we are now men

I would be really annoyed if that happened again.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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To me, it's not the IF...I can deal with losing. It's always the 'HOW'.

If we lose the way we did vs Adelaide I will be annoyed but goal kicking and shooting ourselves in the foot is not the coaches fault.
If we lose the way we did against Port or (with more relevance) in the elimination final we played up at Blacktown all those years ago (the one where GWS bashed us up) I will be much more than annoyed.

Totally agree. But regardless the burners will go on again whether rightly or not.

You can also bet things will be cooler if we lose AND still play finals which shouldn't actually be the case.

[mjp]

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we were inexperienced babies then, we are now men

Don't TELL me.
SHOW me.

I don't NOT believe in Bevo - I think he's a super coach - but he's also 100% part of a group that has been consistently untrustworthy.

[Mantis]

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Don't TELL me.
SHOW me.

I don't NOT believe in Bevo - I think he's a super coach - but he's also 100% part of a group that has been consistently untrustworthy.

Given he selects the group he is not only a part, but he's also responsible.

[SonofScray]

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Don't TELL me.
SHOW me.

I don't NOT believe in Bevo - I think he's a super coach - but he's also 100% part of a group that has been consistently untrustworthy.

That’s ultimately how I fall back in line. And I will happily.

I haven’t completely cooled on my position and I think 2025 sees us back on the treadmill should we not do something absolutely incredible across the next five games.

But right now, on the balance of things, there’s been a big enough improvement to put the axe away and acknowledge that our coach has coached much better this season than previous years, despite the outcomes not looking remarkably different.

Conversation rightfully will move from sacking to whether or not we extend/resign. Then to sacking again if we get off to the poor start for our Premiership defence in 2025.

Noting that he breaks EJ’s record this weekend, anyone who wants to use that as a stat to stick it up the haters etc… even EJ got sacked. ��

[jeemak]

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Just remember we only made finals because we had either more wins or a better percentage than 12 other teams.

[angelopetraglia]

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That’s is 7 finals appearances in 10 seasons for Bevo. 14 win season with a percentage of 125.1%

The axe can be put away for a while.

[hujsh]

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I said Bevo was probably gone unless we had a GWS/Carlton in 2023 type run home and by god he pulled it off the mad lad. We have beaten teams that were 1-2 and 3, our personal Demons, and arguably the form team of the comp today.

Why not us