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I don't disagree with you on Barrett. I can recall Cornes run in with Minson but not with Bevo?
I don't fully dismiss Cornes views as he actually has a good eye for the game, but he has chosen the "volcano" route rather than a serious analyst.
For mine David King gets a very rough go on this forum but each to their own. SEN clickbait him and I'm not sure posters actually dig a bit deeper and listen to the context of the discussion.
Please keep posting these snapshot views that are posted on twitter etc as they create good debate and discussion! (I know you didn't start this one)!More of an In Bruges guy?Comment
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Kane Cornes fires back at Luke Beveridge’s attack on Adam Treloar critics
The Western Bulldogs may be through to the AFL Grand Final and coach Luke Beveridge isn’t going to waste the chance to fire back at criticism.
After the Bulldogs beat the Lions in the semi-final in a one-point classic, the attention turned to midfielder Adam Treloar, when he had just 10 disposals in the close call.
Having been a high profile recruit for the Bulldogs who signed a five-year $4.5m deal with the side after the Collingwood debacle before the season, Beveridge said that Treloar wasn’t fully fit after he struggled against the Lions.
It led to criticism, with Fox Footy’s Jonathan Brown saying Treloar would be “horrified” with vision of him struggling to get involved, while Nick Riewoldt said “he didn’t look himself”.
But former Port Adelaide 300-gamer Kane Cornes said that it looked like Treloar wasn’t happy about where he was playing.
“He looks like he’s spat the dummy a little because he’s not playing midfield” Cornes told Footy Classified earlier in the week. “Some of these examples from the weekend is quite concerning from a player who has an opportunity to win a premiership. It’s not good enough for a player like that.”
But a week makes all the difference and the Bulldogs blew Port Adelaide away with a 17.14 (116) to 6.9 (45) win on Saturday night with a goal and two behinds and 23 disposals in a huge game.
It gave Beveridge all the ammo he needed to unload in his press conference after the win.
“If you’re going to fail in life, fail at something that is noble. Fail at something you can dust yourself off and be proud that you had a go,” Beveridge said. “If you’re failing at trying to pull people apart and bring people down like two or three journalists did this week, I don’t know how people around you can live with you, how they can lie in bed with you, how they can look at themselves in the mirror.
“For a guy like Adam, people know he’s had some challenges over the journey. It was just really poor and vindictive stuff and it was really distasteful. So I was just so happy for him tonight.
“You can imagine the pressure he put himself under. Remember how outstanding he was for our football club in the early stanzas, in the early parts of the year to give us solid grounding up near the top of the ladder.
“He had an average game last week, he didn’t like it and him and I had a really good chat about preparation this week. But what a great night for him to withstand that and give great contribution for his teammates and our footy club. I’m really proud of him and bloody disappointed in a few people that were nasty.”
Cornes, who was one of the most vocal critics, hit back on Sunday.
“I was critical of Adam Treloar’s body language and his performance last week, and I stand by it,” he told Nine’s AFL Sunday Footy Show.
“I’d challenge anyone to go back and look at Adam Treloar’s efforts last week, they were poor, we wouldn’t be doing our job if we didn’t call it out, to the point where he almost gave up in some contests.
“I don’t know if those comments were (aimed) at me. I think it’d be much easier if Luke had the courage to actually name the people he was being critical of. It would seem strange if he would bring my wife into those comments after a game, I’d find that incredibly strange.
“But all good coaches stand up for their players and that’s what he did after one of his most famous wins.”
Footy Show host Tony Jones admitted he was “taken aback” by the comments.
“He’s better than that, Luke Beveridge,” Jones said. “I’m pretty sure if he had his time [again], he probably wouldn’t be as volcanic in his criticism of the criticism of Adam Treloar.”
Damian Barrett said that the ability to create a “world against the Western Bulldogs” mentality was “part of the layers of genius of this man as a coach”.Comment
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Well this from David King is one reason he gets a hard go:
I mean what a goose. We stumped up early picks for these guys and then the next lot of picks were 55 plus. That is all Sam was sayingBULLDOGS ACCUSED OF THE ?ULTIMATE SPIN? AFTER LIST MANAGER'S UGLE-HAGAN, DARCY COMMENTS
David King has laughed off suggestions that the Western Bulldogs? list build has been impacted by needing to bid for Academy prospect Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and father-son prospect Sam Darcy.
The Bulldogs had access to Ugle-Hagan in 2020, who was bid on by Adelaide with the 1st pick in the draft. Then in 2021, Darcy was bid on with pick two by GWS.
Despite being a top eight team, the Dogs received the best key position player in successive drafts.
However, Bulldogs list manager Sam Power believes that needing to match bids for both stars has impacted their depth, given the second and third-round picks absorbed.
?Matching bids with Jamarra and Sam early in drafts has meant that we picked early and picked late,? Power told AFL Media?s Gettable.
?Obviously fantastic bringing those boys in, but we?ve paid maximum for them with where those picks came, so we haven?t had access to certain parts of the draft.?
It comes after the Bulldogs missed the eight in 2023, with question marks from coach Luke Beveridge over the true quality of the list.
David King, however, cannot cop Power?s comments given the incredible priority access the Dogs have had.
?He even had trouble getting those words out,? King told SEN Breakfast.
?He?s trying to tell us that what they paid for Jamarra ? which was pick 29, 33, 41, 52 and 54 ? for the best kid in the draft, was a setback for their list build?
?And then he?s also throwing Sam Darcy in there ? which was pick 32, 34 and 40.
?Now look, that is just the ultimate spin. ?We?ve had to pay overs for those blokes? ? they?re future key position stars!
?Their list build has been hamstrung by having to bid on Jamarra with picks in the 30s? And Sam Darcy has cost them three picks in the 30s? Come on Sam (Power).?
Kane Cornes agrees, adding that a bit of finger pointing is going on at the Dogs.
?You can?t complain about being blessed with one of the great draft free kicks you?ve ever seen,? he said.
?Imagine the team down the bottom hearing that when you?ve got a finals contender getting access to the best players in the draft for not much at all. We?re not copping that.
?There?s a bit of the blame game going on at the Dogs.?
The Bulldogs have been blessed again in 2023, with father-son prospect Jordan Croft available for selection.
AFL Media?s Callum Twomey has Croft, a 201cm key forward, ranked 11th in his phantom form guide for this season.FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.Comment
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Oh jeez they're a bit daft aren't they? Power is simply pointing out we haven't been able to add depth through the draft due to our 2nd and 3rd rounders needing to be used on JUH and Darcy. Nothing about not bringing in talent. It's pretty simple guys.Comment
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FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.Comment
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I usually like King, but this is just a dumb and ignorant take.W00F!Comment
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The shallow comments from King are wonderful because they're right in Aza's sweet spot of lamentation about our depth.
How will he respond?TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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King is the worst of the lot as he tries to deliver his rubbish on the back of long forgotten credibly.BT COME BACK!
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What pre planning did the club do in the draft years leading up to drafting JUH and Darcy?
Surely we expected we would need to use a lot of draft capital to bring them onto our list.
What have we done since to improve our list profile?More of an In Bruges guy?Comment
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The only way to get more 1st or 2nd picks is to trade some decent players. Who would you have been prepared to let go?
Getting more for Dunkley would have been helpful meaning trade him after his first request. If the club is saying they want a younger list profile then the decision to recruit Lobb was mystifying. We both got older and lost a second rounder in the process. It seems the clubs view on our list has changed in the last 12 months. It's disappointing we didn't see it earlier but we can only start from now.Comment
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#1: Power isn't wrong and we have talked (a lot) about this (selecting Jamarra and Darcy has compromised our draft hand).
#2: King (and everyone else) is right and we really shouldn't be complaining about finishing near the top of the ladder and getting access to not just 1 but 2 top tier, key position talents.
Honestly, Power would have been well advised not to mention TOO much about this as this was just a case of "you set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down" for the media pundits.
How do you do both? Well...I wouldn't have been doing the stupid show with Cal Twomey if I was him but a few people I know appreciated him going on there so...well, whatchagonnado??What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.Comment
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Well...he was. Sort of.
Having not heard the interview and just read the transcript, it comes across as a:
"well, you know, we would've done more if we hadn't had to commit all our resources to those top picks...".
Like I said mate, Power isn't wrong but it's just not a path I think he should've gone down without expecting this sort of blowback.What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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