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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11820

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    They’re safe, so until there’s a board challenge to shake things up, we are stuck on a plane with no pilot just waiting to run out of fuel. Worse will be if some of the good players find the stash of parachutes. But we’re committed, F1 and all, so be it.
    Shrug. Wait for it all to burn down then I guess. I see no point in replacing Bevo when we have no way to support a new coach anyway
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Shrug. Wait for it all to burn down then I guess. I see no point in replacing Bevo when we have no way to support a new coach anyway
      I tend to agree now. Try not to think about the F1 next season too?
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11820

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I tend to agree now. Try not to think about the F1 next season too?
        If the place needs burning, it should provide good tinder. If not it won't be such a problem
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • SonofScray
          Coaching Staff
          • Apr 2008
          • 4204

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Just watching the AFLW and think our historically bad season from that program should be adding pressure to senior figures. We’ve got mens program not meeting expectations and a women’s program way off the mark.
          Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21539

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by SonofScray
            Just watching the AFLW and think our historically bad season from that program should be adding pressure to senior figures. We’ve got mens program not meeting expectations and a women’s program way off the mark.
            What are the reasons for the poor performances with the women's team in your view? I don't follow it closely, the mens is enough torture for me.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4204

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by jeemak
              What are the reasons for the poor performances with the women's team in your view? I don't follow it closely, the mens is enough torture for me.
              Some list balance issues, stemming mostly from expansion killing us, still, you have to work with the hand you are dealt and we’ve not got it right. Horror injury run. Bourke claims a lack of professionalism in the group. He’s actually been quite strong I feel, in a really bad year.

              I tend to skew more positive towards the AFLW squad due to a bit of a link there and from what I see the coaching staff are engaged and have a clear vision.

              BUT. Performance matters.

              We’re a big, pioneer, premiership winning club in this league. It’s all falling apart and the Club, outside the actual folk at the coal face happy to accept the narrative being ascribed to us.
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21539

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Originally posted by SonofScray
                Some list balance issues, stemming mostly from expansion killing us, still, you have to work with the hand you are dealt and we’ve not got it right. Horror injury run. Bourke claims a lack of professionalism in the group. He’s actually been quite strong I feel, in a really bad year.

                I tend to skew more positive towards the AFLW squad due to a bit of a link there and from what I see the coaching staff are engaged and have a clear vision.

                BUT. Performance matters.

                We’re a big, pioneer, premiership winning club in this league. It’s all falling apart and the Club, outside the actual folk at the coal face happy to accept the narrative being ascribed to us.
                I actually found the Burke (get your act together SoS ) comments slightly bewildering. If he's not accountable for fitness and professionalism who is? Aren't these the things we hold Bevo accountable for with the mens team?

                My understanding of the expansion landscape is rudimentary, but enough to know we've copped it a bit. So if it's not Burke and his coaching team bridging the gap, is it a resourcing issue?
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • SonofScray
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 4204

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  I actually found the Burke (get your act together SoS ) comments slightly bewildering. If he's not accountable for fitness and professionalism who is? Aren't these the things we hold Bevo accountable for with the mens team?

                  My understanding of the expansion landscape is rudimentary, but enough to know we've copped it a bit. So if it's not Burke and his coaching team bridging the gap, is it a resourcing issue?
                  Never going to show a St K person enough respect to spell their name correctly. Even if I like them.

                  Might ramble a bit here. Sorry in advance.

                  I think, perhaps, the difference is linked to the maturity of the playing group and the program as a whole. The demands and expectations on the women have gone up rapidly, maybe the supports across the board probably haven’t kept pace. They seem generally well supported at the club by our staff though, so it’s hard to gauge. Maybe even just the culture in the playing group, it’s not mature yet. He was not happy with some behaviours and efforts around nutrition and rest being up to scratch outside of time at the club and when you are down to around 23 fit players it’s hard to pull the trigger.


                  Men’s programs aren’t navigating that component, I would have thought. The expectations are rock solid and culturally junior players seem to know what they are in for coming into the environment. They still have to adjust and get into the swing of it, but there’s something there. There’ll be countless folk more clued into that than me.

                  Re: coach comparisons. I’m not sure those domains (fitness/professionalism) are what Bevo cops it around most from others, though I probably have at some point because I’ve thrown the kitchen sink at him and simply want him gone. The two coaches are at different points in their journey, one I see as having a clear focus and bringing a consistent presentation and energy to the role. Both are failing to get the results we want.

                  Is it just luck, you win some, you lose some, or are they both no good? ( they’re clearly both capable coaches IMO), or moving up the chain is someone else underperforming in the deployment of resources, overall vision, or support?

                  In this thread we’ve seen the torch turned on coach, Footy Dept boss, CEO and President. I suppose I am wondering does a a horrific season in the AFLW add to that? Maybe we, or the club care enough for that to fuel concern further?
                  Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21539

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Excellent response and a lot to think about.

                    I'll get back to you. Again, great response matte.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11820

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      I'm just gonna say this. Pure vibes. Bevo looking good and refreshed
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15194

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        I'm just gonna say this. Pure vibes. Bevo looking good and refreshed
                        It’s the white sleeves
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Bulldog Revolution
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3924

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          It’s the white sleeves
                          Yep, new merch! noticed that too

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14087

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            The white sleeves one Bevo was wearing was the only one I actually like this year .
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • Bumper Bulldogs
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2906

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              I’m not on the inner sanctum like some others and have often wondered what the hell is going on. But for some strange reason I’m sitting pretty comfortable with the dogs and the administration right now. It seems to me that we have identified a freshen up was needed and upsetting the Apple cart with Smith didn’t matter. They have built support around our main man Bevo and look to have recruited very well for Speed, the futures d our immediate needs. It’s seems welll balanced, measured and disciplined for once

                              Good luck Dogs let’s rip apart in 2024. I can’t wait.

                              Hopefully Bevo has got the Christmas list good on selection integrity
                              BB.

                              Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3811

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Time will tell, but I am feeling more positve. Much will depend on game plans etc, but if these changes mean bevo does what he does best then we will go a long way tp being successful

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