Sharp Axes

[angelopetraglia]

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Interesting conversation. Lethal always makes sense. https://x.com/footyonnine/status/177...y1lhUs8p7uzZ_A

[kruder]

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Pete Ryan spoke well in the age pretty much bang on really...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/four-points-beveridge-s-bulldogs-out-of-tune-hawks-reach-a-54-year-low-blues-beware-20240414-p5fjol.html

[angelopetraglia]

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Pete Ryan spoke well in the age pretty much bang on really...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...14-p5fjol.html

Agree. Great piece and summary from Ryan.

[Hotdog60]

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Pete Ryan spoke well in the age pretty much bang on really...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...14-p5fjol.html

Hi kruder, can you give us some highlights I used to be able to read it but not anymore.

[Grantysghost]

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Hi kruder, can you give us some highlights I used to be able to read it but not anymore.

Here https://archive.is/9ipQh

[macca]

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Thanks for posting the article @hotdog.
Interestimg points Ryan points out.
2021- we had Dunkley , Keath , Gardner in good form. Who has stepped up to replace them ? That was 3 years ago. Our list depth is being exposed now for its deficiencies. Lack of leg speed , good natural kicks and high footy IQ players . Injuries and development to our young players has not helped. I think the club knows internally they need to play the young kids and get games into them. We had 9 players under 50 games against Bombers. 50 gamed is the investment we need to put into the younger players.

Finding the balancd to meet that demand , whilst trying to win games and team cohesion is a real challenge. I am in the not sack coach camp . Let him do the rebuild. End of day , I want him to develop these boys into fine young men. Develop the rapport , build the trust , the results will come.

[JanLorMill]

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You might call it rebuild now but it more like an excuse found for poor performances. No way we went into season 2024 looking to renew the list.

[JanLorMill]

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Thanks for posting the article @hotdog.
Interestimg points Ryan points out.
2021- we had Dunkley , Keath , Gardner in good form. Who has stepped up to replace them ? That was 3 years ago. Our list depth is being exposed now for its deficiencies. Lack of leg speed , good natural kicks and high footy IQ players . Injuries and development to our young players has not helped. I think the club knows internally they need to play the young kids and get games into them. We had 9 players under 50 games against Bombers. 50 gamed is the investment we need to put into the younger players.

Finding the balancd to meet that demand , whilst trying to win games and team cohesion is a real challenge. I am in the not sack coach camp . Let him do the rebuild. End of day , I want him to develop these boys into fine young men. Develop the rapport , build the trust , the results will come.

That article loses me right after it says Gardner and good form. Like he was the kingpin of our defence.

[azabob]

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Pete Ryan spoke well in the age pretty much bang on really...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...14-p5fjol.html

Thanks for posting. Ryan has summed up the issues and identified the why’s really well.

Interestingly did he suggest trading Naughton?

[MrMahatma]

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I just don't think that we lost the match on Friday night because JOD played and Dale was sub. Many of the team were down and the effort was lacking, almost across the board. Plus we missed some sitters at crucial moments. English had a mare too, at least early.

I think we can blood young guys and still contend. I think the Darcy v Lobb question is the biggest though given time on ground and ability to ruck. I don't know how you play both.

I don't think the comments by Bevo are confusing or contradictory, saying we're playing for now and building for the future. You can walk and chew gum if the talent is there. However, I just think the team are either confused about what they should be doing on field, or they just don't care enough to really dig in.

[Grantysghost]

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Thanks for posting. Ryan has summed up the issues and identified the why’s really well.

Interestingly did he suggest trading Naughton?

Perhaps they could consider whether Aaron Naughton – who is contracted until 2032 – could yield enough return to stack the midfield with more raw talent. That’s not a question for today, however.

Yep.

I'm for it. He's in my bad books until he's not again!

[DadBod]

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I just don't think that we lost the match on Friday night because JOD played and Dale was sub. Many of the team were down and the effort was lacking, almost across the board. Plus we missed some sitters at crucial moments. English had a mare too, at least early.

I think we can blood young guys and still contend. I think the Darcy v Lobb question is the biggest though given time on ground and ability to ruck. I don't know how you play both.

I don't think the comments by Bevo are confusing or contradictory, saying we're playing for now and building for the future. You can walk and chew gum if the talent is there. However, I just think the team are either confused about what they should be doing on field, or they just don't care enough to really dig in.

It was the effort that concerned me the most, it was beyond lacklustre. Yet if you look at the stats, they're very similar. They had a lot more kicks, hitouts and centre clearances which got the ball moving for them. They had more contested wins and more marks which tells me we were well off our opponents.
Disposals: we had 4 of the top 5.
Scores: we had 3 of the top 6.
Tackles: we had the top 4.

It doesn't make sense. Both teams were similar, but our effort was pathetic.

[GVGjr]

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I just don't think that we lost the match on Friday night because JOD played and Dale was sub. Many of the team were down and the effort was lacking, almost across the board. Plus we missed some sitters at crucial moments. English had a mare too, at least early.

I think we can blood young guys and still contend. I think the Darcy v Lobb question is the biggest though given time on ground and ability to ruck. I don't know how you play both.

I don't think the comments by Bevo are confusing or contradictory, saying we're playing for now and building for the future. You can walk and chew gum if the talent is there. However, I just think the team are either confused about what they should be doing on field, or they just don't care enough to really dig in.

Agree with everything you've said.
Picking teams largely based on form is the right thing to do and some players might need to adjust to that.
Picking teams with an eye on the future when you can is also the right thing to do.
It doesn't mean you play youngsters just for the sake of if but if the form warrants selections then they should be in the mix.

I didn't find Bevo comments confusing but clearly a lot of people did so he will need to improve his communication.

The press is coming for him and a lot of our supporters have lost faith this weeks game against the Saints will be huge.

[Grantysghost]

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Agree with everything you've said.
Picking teams largely based on form is the right thing to do and some players might need to adjust to that.
Picking teams with an eye on the future when you can is also the right thing to do.
It doesn't mean you play youngsters just for the sake of if but if the form warrants selections then they should be in the mix.

I didn't find Bevo comments confusing but clearly a lot of people did so he will need to improve his communication.

The press is coming for him and a lot of our supporters have lost faith this weeks game against the Saints will be huge.

I didn't find it confusing from a literary sense. It was the message. What on earth is he talking about? NOW it's a rehash/rebuild? Last year we are top 4, now it's a rebuild I mean wtf are they smoking down there. What kind of message is that for fans/players/sponsors etc etc etc.

Just talk about the game, don't go into the supposed strategy of the club because it makes your coaching performance look hampered by some Machiavellian force driving change (which I don't think he is buying into).

Strangely he didn't insinuate this after the Gold Coast game....

We picked JOD for the Saints game? Ex squuuuueze me.

He's transferred his inane ramblings at the season launch to the press conference now. I thought he'd mention the snow button at some stage

[angelopetraglia]

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Agree with everything you've said.
Picking teams largely based on form is the right thing to do and some players might need to adjust to that.
Picking teams with an eye on the future when you can is also the right thing to do.
It doesn't mean you play youngsters just for the sake of if but if the form warrants selections then they should be in the mix.

I didn't find Bevo comments confusing but clearly a lot of people did so he will need to improve his communication.

The press is coming for him and a lot of our supporters have lost faith this weeks game against the Saints will be huge.

Agree with all of this.

The dissapointing part for me is Bevo let himself down in how he communicated to the media on Friday night. He could have anwsered those questions a lot better without having the mixed messages. It was not his best moment.

He could have stated that we are always playing for the now with one eye on the future because that is what good clubs do. That never changes. You are always drafting new talent, you are always developing players, you are always blooding new talent in the AFL. You can walk and chew gum. That is what he should have said.

But flagging mixed messages whether we are "rebuilding" only threw fuel on the flames.