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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18854

    Re: Sharp Axes

    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
    Thank God for that. Here I was panicking.

    Good to know we've got it under control. Ladder position is not the be all and end all people.
    Well, not when you've traded away your first pick.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9873

      Re: Sharp Axes

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      Well, not when you've traded away your first pick.
      I try to forget that but each week I'm reminded of this. Ooooof

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21540

        Re: Sharp Axes

        Originally posted by angelopetraglia
        Kane wants to keep taking it to cliche hysteria with his well worn hits on the Dogs. Nathan Buckley with the opposite. Actualy decent analysis and pragmatic. Bucks worth listening to in regards to this.

        https://dcs.megaphone.fm/NTETP988655...2-31909454a314
        I don't know how someone can use Darcy as an example of how amazing our list is, even JUH is still in the development phase of his career and is going to be inconsistent.

        As for Buckley, as an ex-senior coach I don't know how he copes with his opinion being tossed aside so readily by the likes of Cornes. At some point you'd be telling the dickhead to just shut up and listen.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18854

          Re: Sharp Axes

          Originally posted by G-Mo77
          I try to forget that but each week I'm reminded of this. Ooooof
          It's a kick to the nether regions that's for sure.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18854

            Re: Sharp Axes

            Originally posted by jeemak
            I don't know how someone can use Darcy as an example of how amazing our list is, even JUH is still in the development phase of his career and is going to be inconsistent.

            As for Buckley, as an ex-senior coach I don't know how he copes with his opinion being tossed aside so readily by the likes of Cornes. At some point you'd be telling the dickhead to just shut up and listen.
            Because they know it's contrived theatre.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • angelopetraglia
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6774

              Re: Sharp Axes

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              Because they know it's contrived theatre.
              It is for one, but Bucks appears to take some pride in what it says and it being remotely accurate and actually informing the listeners. Cornes knows his role is just chief provocateur.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6774

                Re: Sharp Axes

                Western Bulldogs president Kylie Watson-Wheeler backs Luke Beveridge after Hawks loss Jon Ralph

                The Bulldogs slumped to 3-5 after losing to the bottom-four Hawks on the weekend, but club president Kylie Watson-Wheeler and board member Luke Darcy continue to back the coach.

                Western Bulldogs president Kylie Watson-Wheeler has backed the security of coach Luke Beveridge’s job but made clear the clash against Hawthorn was “a game we all definitely expected to win”.

                After the Dogs lost another close game to a club out of finals contention Beveridge made clear he believed he had the trust and connection with his playing group.

                In the last 13 games the Dogs have lost all five clashes decided by a single-figure margin, with a top four finish likely a pipedream given his side would need to win 12 of their final 15 home-and-away games.

                Dogs chief executive Ameet Bains said recently the club’s hope was to contend for the premiership this year and Watson-Wheeler agreed finals had been the stated goal this season.

                But as she echoed Beveridge’s mantra about a list evolution she made clear the club planned to honour his contract despite the 3-5 start to the season.

                “Yeah, he’s contracted until the end of next year, we are really focused on working together with the coaching group and we have had a lot of coaching changes as well so we are settling that in,” she said.

                “We are focused on supporting the group we have and really ensuring we are giving them everything they need to bring that positive result on the field.

                “I think you need to watch what is happening on the field consistently and what is happening within the walls of the club. Everything I see, I see and feel that connection and we are in a bit of a phase of evolution within the team and determining how we can manage to deliver that high performance that we have the ability to do on a consistent basis.”

                Watson-Wheeler’s semi-regular ABC spot came on the morning after the club’s dispiring loss to the Hawks but she made clear nothing would change in the club’s backing of Beveridge.

                Beveridge said earlier this year the club’s all-encompassing review over summer had not been about his coaching but about “freeing me up to progress things in the coaching and management space”.

                Board member Luke Darcy made clear last August he was a Beveridge man.

                “100 per cent he is (the man). And all the evidence would suggest that,” he said.

                “Sometimes the commentary outside can border on disrespectful at times when you talk of someone with the history and record that he has, he has changed the whole paradigm of coaching in many ways. His record has been extraordinary. He has been an extraordinary leader of that football club. He has been an incredibly positive, successful person. Our football club in 10 years has never had a more successful period. This deathriding of coaches, I am uneasy with that.”

                Wheeler-Watson said the club had not expected to lose to Hawthorn.

                “Certainly it was a game we all definitely expected to win so we are all disappointed and frustrated within the club, all levels of the club,” she said

                “As of course are our fans and we really understand that. What has been interesting this season for us is we have had three convincing wins and two convincing losses and then we have had three losses where we were right up at the line and just couldn’t find what we needed to jump over that and last night was one of those games. As a club we continue to connect to determine what we need to do to make sure we can win those games.”

                “I think the reality is when you think about the evolution of your football team and the game and where you are at you need to improve upon the previous year. Given we just missed out on finals last year making finals is an improvement. But at our best we are very very good. We just need to maintain that and bring our best more than we are at the moment.”

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Sharp Axes

                  How did 10 month old Luke Darcy comments make that article?
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • SonofScray
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4204

                    Re: Sharp Axes

                    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                    Western Bulldogs president Kylie Watson-Wheeler backs Luke Beveridge after Hawks loss Jon Ralph

                    The Bulldogs slumped to 3-5 after losing to the bottom-four Hawks on the weekend, but club president Kylie Watson-Wheeler and board member Luke Darcy continue to back the coach.

                    Western Bulldogs president Kylie Watson-Wheeler has backed the security of coach Luke Beveridge’s job but made clear the clash against Hawthorn was “a game we all definitely expected to win”.

                    After the Dogs lost another close game to a club out of finals contention Beveridge made clear he believed he had the trust and connection with his playing group.

                    In the last 13 games the Dogs have lost all five clashes decided by a single-figure margin, with a top four finish likely a pipedream given his side would need to win 12 of their final 15 home-and-away games.

                    Dogs chief executive Ameet Bains said recently the club’s hope was to contend for the premiership this year and Watson-Wheeler agreed finals had been the stated goal this season.

                    But as she echoed Beveridge’s mantra about a list evolution she made clear the club planned to honour his contract despite the 3-5 start to the season.

                    “Yeah, he’s contracted until the end of next year, we are really focused on working together with the coaching group and we have had a lot of coaching changes as well so we are settling that in,” she said.

                    “We are focused on supporting the group we have and really ensuring we are giving them everything they need to bring that positive result on the field.

                    “I think you need to watch what is happening on the field consistently and what is happening within the walls of the club. Everything I see, I see and feel that connection and we are in a bit of a phase of evolution within the team and determining how we can manage to deliver that high performance that we have the ability to do on a consistent basis.”

                    Watson-Wheeler’s semi-regular ABC spot came on the morning after the club’s dispiring loss to the Hawks but she made clear nothing would change in the club’s backing of Beveridge.

                    Beveridge said earlier this year the club’s all-encompassing review over summer had not been about his coaching but about “freeing me up to progress things in the coaching and management space”.

                    Board member Luke Darcy made clear last August he was a Beveridge man.

                    “100 per cent he is (the man). And all the evidence would suggest that,” he said.

                    “Sometimes the commentary outside can border on disrespectful at times when you talk of someone with the history and record that he has, he has changed the whole paradigm of coaching in many ways. His record has been extraordinary. He has been an extraordinary leader of that football club. He has been an incredibly positive, successful person. Our football club in 10 years has never had a more successful period. This deathriding of coaches, I am uneasy with that.”

                    Wheeler-Watson said the club had not expected to lose to Hawthorn.

                    “Certainly it was a game we all definitely expected to win so we are all disappointed and frustrated within the club, all levels of the club,” she said

                    “As of course are our fans and we really understand that. What has been interesting this season for us is we have had three convincing wins and two convincing losses and then we have had three losses where we were right up at the line and just couldn’t find what we needed to jump over that and last night was one of those games. As a club we continue to connect to determine what we need to do to make sure we can win those games.”

                    “I think the reality is when you think about the evolution of your football team and the game and where you are at you need to improve upon the previous year. Given we just missed out on finals last year making finals is an improvement. But at our best we are very very good. We just need to maintain that and bring our best more than we are at the moment.”
                    9 games in a row where the deciding margin is 14 points or less we have lost.
                    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65958

                      Re: Sharp Axes

                      Originally posted by SonofScray
                      9 games in a row where the deciding margin is 14 points or less we have lost.
                      That tells me we don't have the quality of players to finish off a game.

                      We again played 8 inexperienced players yesterday (0 to 50 games) - but many not up to it, or still learning their trade.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • angelopetraglia
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6774

                        Re: Sharp Axes

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        That tells me we don't have the quality of players to finish off a game.

                        We again played 8 inexperienced players yesterday (0 to 50 games) - but many not up to it, or still learning their trade.
                        Yes. But our opponent yesterday had 9.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18854

                          Re: Sharp Axes

                          Melbourne had 5 under 10 games.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65958

                            Re: Sharp Axes

                            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                            Yes. But our opponent yesterday had 9.
                            but they had 7 in the 50 to 100, to our 2

                            In the 0 to 50 - As I said in my comment, ours aren't up to it, whereas Hawks are
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15194

                              Re: Sharp Axes

                              Assuming 13 wins puts you in finals contention we need to win ten of our last fifteen games.

                              Breaking the remainder of the games into blocks of five highlights how tough our run home is.

                              We play ten games against current top 8 teams.

                              Richmond (away), Giants (away), Sydney (home), Pies (away at marvel), Lions (home)
                              Dockers (home), North (away at marvel), Port (away), Carlton (home), Geelong (away),
                              Sydney (away), Melbourne (home), Adelaide (away), North (home) Giants (home)

                              I would suggest we are favourite against North (twice) and 50/50 V Richmond this week.
                              Kinda depressing.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7295

                                Re: Sharp Axes

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                Well, not when you've traded away your first pick.
                                In all seriousness, did we have a real choice with this?

                                I mean, I feel like it's revisionist history (somewhat) because my recollection is that everyone was on board with this when it happened!
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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