Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6924

    #61
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

    Originally posted by hujsh
    Objectively speaking has Keath or O'Brien been better in the intercepting role?
    For mine it's about TOB's kicking. Think we need it playing 3 tallish KPDs. Jones, Keath and Gardy all not great with the ball. TOB fits whoever we play alongside Jones more.

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    • lemmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6506

      #62
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      For mine it's about TOB's kicking. Think we need it playing 3 tallish KPDs. Jones, Keath and Gardy all not great with the ball. TOB fits whoever we play alongside Jones more.
      Agree with this. The interceptor is quite often the distributor too, by nature of the role.

      Keath is the worst-decision maker in our side at the moment, I'm not sure I want him getting the footy more than he is. Think Keath's best moments in the last fortnight have been when he's asked to be accountable - I prefer him playing the second lock-down role after Jones and competing with Gardiner for that spot.

      I see O'Brien more as Bruce's replacement than anything. Think he's been pretty good over the last few weeks and is showing his best form as a Dog.

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13189

        #63
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

        Originally posted by jazzadogs
        Gee I thought he was good again on the weekend. He had a really poorly start to the year but is back to his best the last few weeks. 26 touches (=4th on ground), 6 clearances (=4th), 7 tackles (1st), 33 pressure acts (1st). He has noticeably ramped up his pressure and is working harder between contests - there was some really embarrassing footage from the Saints game.
        Yeah he's changed how he plays and where he puts his energy to fill a bit of the Dunkley void and I reckon he's going along fine. Pressure acts. Love it. I'd like to say a case in point but that point is moot.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6407

          #64
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Ozza, do you think TOB has been a bit disappointing or is it more that you think Gards fits our requirements better in the short term?
          Sounds a bit simple, but I want our best players in the side - and I don?t think O?Brien is close to that. And with GWS having 3 x 195cm+ forwards, this is a good week for Gardner to come back in and shut one down.

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15324

            #65
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

            Originally posted by Ozza
            Sounds a bit simple, but I want our best players in the side - and I don?t think O?Brien is close to that. And with GWS having 3 x 195cm+ forwards, this is a good week for Gardner to come back in and shut one down.
            Hogan, Cadman & Himmelberg? Surely O'Brien can take Cadman.... if Cadman gets selected.

            And I would think Himmelberg might go back this week given our height in attack and with Taylor still missing.

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6407

              #66
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Hogan, Cadman & Himmelberg? Surely O'Brien can take Cadman.... if Cadman gets selected.

              And I would think Himmelberg might go back this week given our height in attack and with Taylor still missing.
              I'm sure he could, but Gardner is a better footballer and I'd prefer him in the side. We are also 2 weeks off running into Curnow and McKay which I'd like him back for.

              I think our best deep defence has Jones and Gardner as the two key/deepest pillars. O'Brien is really competing with Keath moving forward in my view. Keath is looking leaner to me this year, which makes sense as Jones, Bruce and Gardner would have been earmarked to play on the monsters.

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                #67
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                Originally posted by Mantis
                It?s sad state of affairs that our VC and someone who is in year 1 of a 5 year deal has become largely invisible.
                Not anyway invisible to me. Then I don't drink anymore.

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10090

                  #68
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                  I’d rather Himmelberg play forward than back. He’s a fantastic interceptor, even better ball user and the exact sort of player that carves us up behind the ball.

                  I’d also rather him playing for us next year instead of GWS if we can get it together.
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                  • Dogs 24/7
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1203

                    #69
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                    Originally posted by Ozza
                    Sounds a bit simple, but I want our best players in the side - and I don?t think O?Brien is close to that. And with GWS having 3 x 195cm+ forwards, this is a good week for Gardner to come back in and shut one down.
                    OBrien is 193cm, is a 2 or 3cm difference in height really a concern? We cant have perfect match ups everywhere.
                    Im not sure why we use heights in determining best match ups especially when we arent talking about the games elite players.
                    Im all for getting Gardner in but he has to earn it doesnt he?

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                    • Dogs 24/7
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1203

                      #70
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                      Originally posted by Ozza
                      I'm sure he could, but Gardner is a better footballer and I'd prefer him in the side. We are also 2 weeks off running into Curnow and McKay which I'd like him back for.

                      I think our best deep defence has Jones and Gardner as the two key/deepest pillars. O'Brien is really competing with Keath moving forward in my view. Keath is looking leaner to me this year, which makes sense as Jones, Bruce and Gardner would have been earmarked to play on the monsters.
                      Sorry I didnt see this until I responded to an earlier post of yours. Like the logic.

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5511

                        #71
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                        Originally posted by Ozza
                        I'm sure he could, but Gardner is a better footballer and I'd prefer him in the side. We are also 2 weeks off running into Curnow and McKay which I'd like him back for.

                        I think our best deep defence has Jones and Gardner as the two key/deepest pillars. O'Brien is really competing with Keath moving forward in my view. Keath is looking leaner to me this year, which makes sense as Jones, Bruce and Gardner would have been earmarked to play on the monsters.
                        I want Gardner in this week, particularly with Carlton the following week. I think there is room for Jones, Gardner and Keath.

                        I am more concerned with Duryea who is clearly on the decline.
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44338

                          #72
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                          I want Gardner in this week, particularly with Carlton the following week. I think there is room for Jones, Gardner and Keath.

                          I am more concerned with Duryea who is clearly on the decline.
                          This is a good suggestion and has a bit of forward planning to it.
                          The question for many would be how can we drop a player in good form for someone in questionable form. I get that Gards is more capable of playing on key forwards but it can't be an easy decision.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66182

                            #73
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                            I still think only one change this week.

                            In Libba

                            Out McNeil - replace Toby as sub.
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44338

                              #74
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              I still think only one change this week.

                              In Libba

                              Out McNeil - replace Toby as sub.
                              Big chance that is the only change we will make.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • Ozza
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 6407

                                #75
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 8 vs GWS

                                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                                I want Gardner in this week, particularly with Carlton the following week. I think there is room for Jones, Gardner and Keath.

                                I am more concerned with Duryea who is clearly on the decline.
                                I agree on Doc. He is still important for the team right now - but we need to be preparing for after him with some urgency as he looks like a player that will struggle to compete beyond this year.

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