Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

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  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15467

    #16
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    I said the same last week mate, just shuffling deck chairs. I'm wanting to see an outside the square selection regardless of form for one VFL game and work with it. If Poulter is ready then why not? Would we be any worse off if we played Buku instead of TOB? Cleary should be in the mix as well. We'll go the "safe" selections though, Hannan, McComb, Crozier will all be top of the list at the selection meeting.
    Like O’Donnell was?

    Not sure that’s working out for us/him.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #17
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

      B: Dale Naughton TOB
      HB: Poulter Jones Duryea
      C: Williams Macrae Baker
      HF: Jones Marra Scott
      F: Bruce Lobb Weightman
      R: English Bont Libba
      I: Treloar Smith Daniel Cleary
      S: Darcy

      Realistically, we will do the same and get the same result. But we need to address a bloke who spoils teammates and focus him on opponents, getting a talk accuracste goal kicker back up front, hope the mids show up, not really be able to cover JJ & Richards out, and as bad as Baker was I don’t see a replacement this week. We’ll just bring in a Hannan or Crozier and get the usual very little from them. Naughton is a net negative on the forward line and unless he and the others learn to play for and with each other, we need to do something like bring the Bruce back, use a wildcard like Darcy or something. Surely the plan isn’t long bombs into the forward line to a pack of 10 players.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Hotdog60
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2009
        • 5914

        #18
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

        Out:
        JOD and Richards
        In:
        Bruce and Cleary
        Sub:
        Out McNeil in Smith
        Don't piss off old people
        The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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        • G-Mo77
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Apr 2007
          • 9876

          #19
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Like O’Donnell was?

          Not sure that’s working out for us/him.
          Bingo, I'm comfortable with the JOD selection now, wasn't at the time. Hes got some tools to work with and think it's time for him to go back and work on them. We need to be bold, we can go safe and select someone who won't develop any further or we can keep an eye on down the road and give some of these players a taste of the big time. Who knows they may inject some enthusiasm into this team and cement a spot like Jones did.

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          • Dogs 24/7
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2007
            • 1199

            #20
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

            Do we have selection integrity (heard this mentioned on the radio) with our VFL players being rewarded with senior games when they display some form or are we more prone to playing someone based on their training appeal?

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            • Scorlibo
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 3087

              #21
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

              Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
              Do we have selection integrity (heard this mentioned on the radio) with our VFL players being rewarded with senior games when they display some form or are we more prone to playing someone based on their training appeal?
              If there are good reasons for playing JOD over (at least at the time) better performing players in Khamis and Cleary, then we haven't heard them publicly.

              I really like the look of JOD, and it was great to see him kick his first, but he's not ready and the move to play him forward and send Lobb to a wing is pissing in the wind kind of stuff. The kind of experiment you could tolerate for a half of footy but simply can't be a month-long pursuit.

              I don't think moves at the selection table are why we've lost the last couple of weeks, but to your point - no we certainly don't have integrity based on exposed VFL form.
              'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11269

                #22
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
                Do we have selection integrity (heard this mentioned on the radio) with our VFL players being rewarded with senior games when they display some form or are we more prone to playing someone based on their training appeal?
                We haven't had selection integrity the entire time Bevo has been at the club. To be fair we aren't the only club.

                But can you imagine a young player like Khamis watching us draft another young player from backyard cricket, play 2 VFL games, and come straight into the VFL side and perform poorly for 4 weeks? How can the MC even begin to justify it?

                I thought they must be planning for JOD to sit on Stewart. Nope. So you can add Bruce (forward version) to this same story, because BOTH Khamis and Bruce would offer a hell of a lot more than JOD as both a forward or defender.

                Bevo speaks about JOD being a great athlete, but I haven't seen it, and at the top level you need to either be able to offer something on attack or defense and through no fault of his own JOD has done neither.

                It's an absolutely ridiculous selection. But Bevo is obsessed with a yearly project.
                W00F!

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #23
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                  Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                  We haven't had selection integrity the entire time Bevo has been at the club. To be fair we aren't the only club.

                  But can you imagine a young player like Khamis watching us draft another young player from backyard cricket, play 2 VFL games, and come straight into the VFL side and perform poorly for 4 weeks? How can the MC even begin to justify it?

                  I thought they must be planning for JOD to sit on Stewart. Nope. So you can add Bruce (forward version) to this same story, because BOTH Khamis and Bruce would offer a hell of a lot more than JOD as both a forward or defender.

                  Bevo speaks about JOD being a great athlete, but I haven't seen it, and at the top level you need to either be able to offer something on attack or defense and through no fault of his own JOD has done neither.

                  It's an absolutely ridiculous selection. But Bevo is obsessed with a yearly project.
                  I can understand giving him a taste. But clutch matches again GCS & Geelong to cement top four is hubris if the highest order.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • DOG GOD
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 6553

                    #24
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                    JOD offers nothing more than Khamis, and having him playing ahead of Khamis is nothing but laughable. At least Khamis has shown positive traits. And by what I’ve seen, seems as much the athlete as they say JOD is.

                    Not sure who’s out or who’s in, but 1 thing is almost a given….crozier, Hannan and McComb will be in the mix, while Khamis, West and Cleary freeze their asses off in the VFL.
                    I will never see #16 the same!!

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11846

                      #25
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                      Why is everyone dropping Richards?
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #26
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        Why is everyone dropping Richards?
                        Injury.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • The Underdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6877

                          #27
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Delist McNeil now.
                          #blamethesub
                          Park that car
                          Drop that phone
                          Sleep on the floor
                          Dream about me

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18979

                            #28
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            Why is everyone dropping Richards?
                            Did his hammy.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18979

                              #29
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                              Originally posted by The Underdog
                              #blamethesub
                              Guy is on a hiding to nothing.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #30
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

                                Originally posted by The Underdog
                                #blamethesub
                                He’s not an AFEL footballer. He missed a gimme goal to get us back in it, and late at CHF let Rohan take an uncontested mark without any pressure and gave nothing to the side. I’m not blaming him for anything. He does not deserve to be on the list in my opinion based on his performances over three years including last night.

                                Edit:

                                Career Averages

                                7.8 touches
                                1.6 mark
                                1 I50
                                0.5 goals
                                0.2 goal assist


                                Not to standard. Not worthy of promotion when the forced choice is delist or promote. He needs to be delisted and he shouldn’t play again if I was picking the team. That’s not blame, that’s my opinion on his career to date and performance last night sealed it.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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