Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

[G-Mo77]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

An inexperienced JOD, a cooked and slow Bruce and an out of form Gardner suggested as ins ? Freo forwards must be salivating already.

That's how we roll.

[FrediKanoute]

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Gardner has to come in for mine. I would bring in JOD as well.

Not sure I would make any other changes. Thought Baker was ok. Hannan was Hannan, so may be him out and McNeill in.

[1eyedog]

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I would actually play Bruce forward and Naughton back. Gardner is terrifyingly out of form and is just a real worry atm.

Also, if Darcy is a test him before JOD under any circumstance.

[macca]

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I would play Bruce and Naughton back and Keith forward with occasional chop out from Lobb and English. This is follow strategy from bevo for out selections

Hell just make it more interesting , recall JOD so he can play at both ends

[Mantis]

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An inexperienced JOD, a cooked and slow Bruce and an out of form Gardner suggested as ins ? Freo forwards must be salivating already.

Who are these forwards you talk of?

Amiss is promising, but are really concerned about him & Treacy?

[Sedat]

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Who are these forwards you talk of?

Amiss is promising, but are really concerned about him & Treacy?

I'm more concerned about Sean Darcy returning to the team (he's a test this week). He destroyed us in the EF last year, although to counter-balance that we absolutely torched their midfield in Perth earlier this year with Darcy playing.

We will need to win the midfield battle decisively again, which we are capable of doing. Our key defensive personnel are obviously important, but nowhere near as important as the midfield battle.

[GVGjr]

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I'm more concerned about Sean Darcy returning to the team (he's a test this week). He destroyed us in the EF last year, although to counter-balance that we absolutely torched their midfield in Perth earlier this year with Darcy playing.

We will need to win the midfield battle decisively again, which we are capable of doing. Our key defensive personnel are obviously important, but nowhere near as important as the midfield battle.

It's one of the reasons why I would consider playing Sweet next week to help combat Darcy. I do also feel that this is the best version of Tim English so it might be a bit of an overkill to play a 2nd pure ruck.

[Rocco Jones]

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It's one of the reasons why I would consider playing Sweet next week to help combat Darcy. I do also feel that this is the best version of Tim English so it might be a bit of an overkill to play a 2nd pure ruck.

I'd only bring in Sweet to release English to play forward and then allow Naughton to go back.
1- Bevo won't do it
2- I don't mind Sweet and think he is a decent back up but I believe his tap work strength is largely a myth. He beats up on rucks who aren't close to AFL level, rucks who are really raw and part timers filling in. Also feel we'd lose plenty from English around the ground.

[hujsh]

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I'd only bring in Sweet to release English to play forward and then allow Naughton to go back.
1- Bevo won't do it
2- I don't mind Sweet and think he is a decent back up but I believe his tap work strength is largely a myth. He beats up on rucks who aren't close to AFL level, rucks who are really raw and part timers filling in. Also feel we'd lose plenty from English around the ground.

Darcy would dominate Sweet. May as well have someone in there with strengths Darcy might struggle to counter

[Sedat]

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I'd only bring in Sweet to release English to play forward and then allow Naughton to go back.
1- Bevo won't do it

As none of the above will happen, we really need to challenge Lobb to step it up in the next few weeks and release English to provide more aerial cover in D50. Jones was a sweeper and rebound marker, and none of our other key defenders have that capability in them and IMO need the additional aerial assistance from English (Keath did once upon a time but it's not 2019 anymore). English covers the ground as well as anyone and can also get involved in defensive transitions/ball movement out of D50.

Lobb needs to provide much more both in ruck back-up and in F50, where he should be doing more of the stoppage work than previous weeks. Also there's nothing stopping deploying Naughton for short bursts late in quarters either on ball or in D50 as a spare, something he's done on occasions in recent history. I like the idea of keeping the opposition guessing in game and being less predictable with our structure.

Sweet is not really competing with English for a spot in the team, he's competing more with Lobb. Quite simply we need to get more out of Lobb, both as 2nd ruck and as 2nd/3rd tall forward.

[Rocco Jones]

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As none of the above will happen, we really need to challenge Lobb to step it up in the next few weeks and release English to provide more aerial cover in D50. Jones was a sweeper and rebound marker, and none of our other key defenders have that capability in them and IMO need the additional aerial assistance from English (Keath did once upon a time but it's not 2019 anymore). English covers the ground as well as anyone and can also get involved in defensive transitions/ball movement out of D50.

Lobb needs to provide much more both in ruck back-up and in F50, where he should be doing more of the stoppage work than previous weeks. Also there's nothing stopping deploying Naughton for short bursts late in quarters either on ball or in D50 as a spare, something he's done on occasions in recent history. I like the idea of keeping the opposition guessing in game and being less predictable with our structure.

Sweet is not really competing with English for a spot in the team, he's competing more with Lobb. Quite simply we need to get more out of Lobb, both as 2nd ruck and as 2nd/3rd tall forward.

Totally agree. My 3rd point was going to be dropping Lobb.

I've said it a few times, Lobb is very rare in AFL where he is actually suited to mainly KPF/ruck relief role. I think he is coasting/just surving atm, not saying he isn't trying but he kind of has a guaranteed place due to how specialised his role is. Be better than Hannan in the ruck and Sweet up forward. Dropping him means a big change to the side but he can't just go on with such low benchmarks.

[jeemak]

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Lobb isn't having the ball kicked to him and is playing 85% of the TOG he was last year. Not sure what output people are looking for when he not prioritised as a target and English puts huge minutes in the ruck (85% TOG in total). When Lobb was at Freo Darcy only spent 80% TOG most likely giving Lobb as many minutes in the ruck as he gets today on top of the minutes he had as the main target forward of the ball.

I feel simply need to utilise/ prioritise Lobb more if we want to get more out of him.

[Rocco Jones]

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Lobb isn't having the ball kicked to him and is playing 85% of the TOG he was last year. Not sure what output people are looking for when he not prioritised as a target and English puts huge minutes in the ruck (85% TOG in total). When Lobb was at Freo Darcy only spent 80% TOG most likely giving Lobb as many minutes in the ruck as he gets today on top of the minutes he had as the main target forward of the ball.

I feel simply need to utilise/ prioritise Lobb more if we want to get more out of him.

Great point/s.

What I was trying to get at is we got/should have get Lobb for a very specific reason. Not many of his type at all and we targeted him. I was thinking that getting Lobb would mean more of a balance with English.

[Bornadog]

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Great point/s.

What I was trying to get at is we got/should have get Lobb for a very specific reason. Not many of his type at all and we targeted him. I was thinking that getting Lobb would mean more of a balance with English.

Do you think we are managing him a bit due to ankle?

[jeemak]

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Great point/s.

What I was trying to get at is we got/should have get Lobb for a very specific reason. Not many of his type at all and we targeted him. I was thinking that getting Lobb would mean more of a balance with English.

Cheers, agreed.

I like Sedat's role for English helping out across half back, or even deeper as required. That should pull Lobb further up the field and give him more ruck minutes and at the same time open up some space in the forward line.