Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6924

    #46
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Do you think we are managing him a bit due to ankle?
    Yeah, maybe. Jeemak made a great point about TOG. One the reasons I was happy about us getting Lobb was his ability to play huge TOG. More chop out in ruck, bigger mins up forward. Helps rest of team.

    Atm he is providing less TOG than I thought and probably a notch down up forward and as ruck relief.

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    • Stevo
      Senior Player
      • May 2008
      • 1028

      #47
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

      In Bruce and Gardner
      Out OBrien and Jones.

      Simples.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15322

        #48
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

        Originally posted by Stevo
        In Bruce and Gardner
        Out OBrien and Jones.

        Simples.
        Is it though?

        I would think our line-up might depend on what Frematle's team looks like.. if they play 3 talls what you have mentioned makes sense, but not sure we need all of Keath, Gardner & Bruce if they only play 2.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21584

          #49
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Is it though?

          I would think our line-up might depend on what Frematle's team looks like.. if they play 3 talls what you have mentioned makes sense, but not sure we need all of Keath, Gardner & Bruce if they only play 2.
          Maybe we play all of them in the hope they gel together in preparation for weeks where Jones is out and we play teams with a few more imposing talls.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15322

            #50
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Maybe we play all of them in the hope they gel together in preparation for weeks where Jones is out and we play teams with a few more imposing talls.
            That would be a change in philosophy as it's been a 'horses for courses' approach thus far as referenced by TOB being omitted for Bruce for the Port game as they had 3 genuine talls.

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6403

              #51
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

              Times like these its annoying that they've tried to make Buku a forward. Would like to see him replace O'Brien ideally.

              Not that phased on Bruce or Gardner....prefer Naughton play back though.

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9873

                #52
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                Originally posted by Ozza
                Times like these its annoying that they've tried to make Buku a forward. Would like to see him replace O'Brien ideally.

                Not that phased on Bruce or Gardner....prefer Naughton play back though.
                I don't know if he's ever going to be good enough but they have really done is development a disservice. Just flung around in multiple positions and never able to focus on his craft in one. Right now he's a Fwd/Ruck. Why? Is LB still hell bent on having undersized rucks not winning any contests?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66138

                  #53
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                  Originally posted by G-Mo77
                  I don't know if he's ever going to be good enough but they have really done is development a disservice. Just flung around in multiple positions and never able to focus on his craft in one. Right now he's a Fwd/Ruck. Why? Is LB still hell bent on having undersized rucks not winning any contests?
                  He rucks as a relief to Sweet. We don't have anyone else (which we should) Darcy will take over when he is back.
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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21584

                    #54
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    That would be a change in philosophy as it's been a 'horses for courses' approach thus far as referenced by TOB being omitted for Bruce for the Port game as they had 3 genuine talls.
                    I think with Jones as the anchor they may have felt they could afford the flexible approach. Not sure with him out for a couple of months or whatever it is that they can.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • kruder
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2011
                      • 3777

                      #55
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                      I reckon Naughty will go back now that Liam's injury is not far off the remainder of the regular season, it gives Bevo an out for mine( his comments).

                      How do you go back to what we had in defence last year? It didn't work then and it won't work now. It must be said our defence trailed off significantly which coincided with Liam's drop in form(you can obviously point to JJ and Ed too) prior to him getting injured.

                      Mix it anyway you want but Keath,Bruce and Gardner aren't the solution to the problem they are role players where as Naughty can be and bring them along for the ride.

                      The one thing against it, is Naughty's contact situation and the fact we asked him to carry a ridiculous load last year and again would be asking him to go over and above.

                      The bye gives us an opportunity to change let's do it rather than continue to go down the same road, it gives us an opportunity to scratch that Naughty itch in defence.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9873

                        #56
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        He rucks as a relief to Sweet. We don't have anyone else (which we should) Darcy will take over when he is back.
                        Joel Garner was a pretty tall man back when he played for the West Indies. Put him in the ruck.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11023

                          #57
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                          Originally posted by kruder
                          I reckon Naughty will go back now
                          I will be shocked if Naughton doesn't line up in the forward 50 Saturday week v Freo. Every single piece of evidence we have suggests Bevo will not play him back as a first option.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #58
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                            Originally posted by G-Mo77
                            Joel Garner was a pretty tall man back when he played for the West Indies. Put him in the ruck.
                            Josie will love you advocating picking him up and playing asap.
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                            • Nuggety Back Pocket
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2064

                              #59
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                              Originally posted by Ozza
                              Times like these its annoying that they've tried to make Buku a forward. Would like to see him replace O'Brien ideally.

                              Not that phased on Bruce or Gardner....prefer Naughton play back though.
                              I wouldn’t be against playing Naughton back given the decimation of our defence without Jones JJ and Richards. Apart from the talent we have in the midfield we struggle both in defence and our forward line. I think it is time for a revamp of our line up by including Sweet to alternate with English at full forward. We also struggle with lack of goals from our small forwards and would prefer to see Bont and Treloar spending more time forward. At the moment there is an over reliance on the midfield through the likes of Bontempelli Liberatore Treloar Macrae and now Daniel to keep us afloat.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21584

                                #60
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 16 v Fremantle

                                Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                                I wouldn’t be against playing Naughton back given the decimation of our defence without Jones JJ and Richards. Apart from the talent we have in the midfield we struggle both in defence and our forward line. I think it is time for a revamp of our line up by including Sweet to alternate with English at full forward. We also struggle with lack of goals from our small forwards and would prefer to see Bont and Treloar spending more time forward. At the moment there is an over reliance on the midfield through the likes of Bontempelli Liberatore Treloar Macrae and now Daniel to keep us afloat.
                                Would you still play English and Sweet through the forward line if the MC didn't put Naughton back?
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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