Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11245

    #61
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

    Originally posted by Danjul
    Collingwood had no answer to our speed from centre to goal. Why so different this year?
    Collingwood are 4-6 goal better team today from what they were mid-last year. We are, at best, on par in the same period. That's no excuse - that's just the reality of the trajectory of both teams since we last played each other. Collingwood has barely lost since then and are so far and away the best team in that block of matches it isn't funny - I know they strictly "haven't won any silverware" but they are clearly miles ahead of the entire field over a 26-odd week sample size.

    That is why the result is so sobering for me personally. We have internal claims to be a genuine top 4 team but the best team in it disposed of us with ease (after spotting up a decent head-start) before cruising to the finish line. It shows exactly where we are at today - a middling to pretty good team but nowhere near a great one. I want us to be a great team that is bankable every single week and winning flags. Can we honestly make the move to great in the next couple of months and really contend in 2023? It's possible but unlikely.

    Onto this week, Sydney are an ordinary team in 2023 who has beaten up on poor opposition and have been found wanting against the rest. They also have a poor key position defensive unit that has been regularly exposed all season. We should really be wiping the floor with them this week with our midfield weapons and big threats forward of centre.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • macca
      Coaching Staff
      • Sep 2007
      • 2366

      #62
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      I am with you on expectation and totally believe the issue is with how we play.

      Collingwood game was actually encouraging in that aspect as the forward line functioned better and maybe the improvement is coming.

      We let Collingwood run the ball way too much.
      When the moment called for the pies to execute they did
      They took clean possession of the ball, ran like crazy in groups , took marks and kicked goals when the shot was there

      We fumbled when the ball had to be picked up in first clean possesion, expected others to get back the ball when it was converging on group of pies and just miss goal shots which needed to be scored.

      I dont know where the improvement will come from.How do you train to reduce fumbles ?

      Dont get me started on goal kicking.....

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18959

        #63
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Collingwood are 4-6 goal better team today from what they were mid-last year. We are, at best, on par in the same period. That's no excuse - that's just the reality of the trajectory of both teams since we last played each other. Collingwood has barely lost since then and are so far and away the best team in that block of matches it isn't funny - I know they strictly "haven't won any silverware" but they are clearly miles ahead of the entire field over a 26-odd week sample size.

        That is why the result is so sobering for me personally. We have internal claims to be a genuine top 4 team but the best team in it disposed of us with ease (after spotting up a decent head-start) before cruising to the finish line. It shows exactly where we are at today - a middling to pretty good team but nowhere near a great one. I want us to be a great team that is bankable every single week and winning flags. Can we honestly make the move to great in the next couple of months and really contend in 2023? It's possible but unlikely.

        Onto this week, Sydney are an ordinary team in 2023 who has beaten up on poor opposition and have been found wanting against the rest. They also have a poor key position defensive unit that has been regularly exposed all season. We should really be wiping the floor with them this week with our midfield weapons and big threats forward of centre.
        Swans are up and about. Not sure if Longmire’s adapted his plan after the bye.
        I'm concerned about the next two weeks I feel Bevo is still trying to work out how to get around the third man up.
        At least he relented on the abomination that was stand back 5 although I doubt he did it willingly.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11839

          #64
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          Swans are up and about. Not sure if Longmire’s adapted his plan after the bye.
          I'm concerned about the next two weeks I feel Bevo is still trying to work out how to get around the third man up.
          At least he relented on the abomination that was stand back 5 although I doubt he did it willingly.
          Uhhhhh,

          Lost to St.Kilda (in Syd)
          Lost to Brisbane
          Smashed the Eagles
          Drew against Geelong (in Syd)
          Lost to Richmond

          Not so sure I'd call that up and about. Geelong result is decent but the rest are losses and beating up on the Eagles.
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18959

            #65
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

            Originally posted by hujsh
            Uhhhhh,

            Lost to St.Kilda (in Syd)
            Lost to Brisbane
            Smashed the Eagles
            Drew against Geelong (in Syd)
            Lost to Richmond

            Not so sure I'd call that up and about. Geelong result is decent but the rest are losses and beating up on the Eagles.
            I forgot about the Tigers game, I'm a week behind.

            I watched the Cats game they were good.

            Maybe I was thinking at the SCG.

            How do you think we will go H?
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66700

              #66
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

              In: Darcy, Bruce (if Gardner is injured), Cleary

              Out: Lobb, Gardner, JOD

              Why Darcy - on the back of Four goals, 21 disposals, 11 marks, 4 clearances + 3 tackles

              Last edited by Bornadog; 10-07-2023, 03:15 PM.
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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18959

                #67
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                Originally posted by bornadog
                In: Darcy, Bruce (if Gardner is injured)

                Out: Lobb, Gardner

                Why Darcy - on the back of Four goals, 21 disposals, 11 marks, 4 clearances + 3 tackles

                I agree the Lobb out.

                Can I ask why Bruce? Just because no one else?

                He's been very ordinary. Feel like he's finished.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66700

                  #68
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  I agree the Lobb out.

                  Can I ask why Bruce? Just because no one else?

                  He's been very ordinary. Feel like he's finished.
                  I feel like he is finished, but basically, no one else.
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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15445

                    #69
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I feel like he is finished, but basically, no one else.
                    If Sydney line up like they did against Richmond (3 tall forwards - McLean, McDonald & Franklin) who do you see Keath, Bruce and O'Donnell matching up on?

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15304

                      #70
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      If Sydney line up like they did against Richmond (2 tall forwards - McLean & Franklin) who do you see Keath, Bruce and O'Donnell matching up on?
                      Also Logan McDonald.

                      Having said that I would be dropping O'Donnell for either JJ or Cleary.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15445

                        #71
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Also Logan McDonald.

                        Having said that I would be dropping O'Donnell for either JJ or Cleary.
                        I edited as I missed him... easy to do as he was awful.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66700

                          #72
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          Also Logan McDonald.

                          Having said that I would be dropping O'Donnell for either JJ or Cleary.
                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          I edited as I missed him... easy to do as he was awful.
                          Same - I meant to drop JOD and bring Cleary in. If JJ is fit then need to think about selections.

                          I will edit post
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                          • westbulldog
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1822

                            #73
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                            A Bruce selection in the backline would have Sydney forwards salivating.

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                            • Critter
                              Rookie List
                              • Jan 2023
                              • 440

                              #74
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                              In: Sweet, JJ, Darcy
                              Out: Lobb, Vandermeer, O'Donnell

                              Busslinger for Gardner, if injured

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44634

                                #75
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

                                With the SCG being a smaller ground could we get by with Darcy providing a couple of chop outs for English and dropping Lobb?
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