Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

[Mantis]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

I don't agree completely.

We were +6 for inside 50's yet most people seem to think we were lucky to get within 2-goals.

Naughton and Weightman kicked 4-each. So they played well.
Jamarra was our consensus 'best' player - he actually wasn't btw but no argument that on balance he played well.

We are getting it in. Our balance still isn't right.

What should the forward-line look like?

Last week it was:

F: Cody, Naughts, JUH
HF: Macrae, Lobb, West

Int: McNeil, Baz

What changes?

[Danjul]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

Playing Dunkley, Khamis and Hannan etc as the 2nd ruck was just silly and it didn't give us much.
Bruce was a reasonable but far from ideal option. I know you've been a big fan of his ability to crash packs.

If I'm reading this correctly we chased the number 1 key forward at Freo so that could provide a 5 minute chop outs for English?
It's certainly not what we said after we recruited him.

There were plenty of other part time ruck options we could have added if we wanted someone to sacrifice their games.

l am sorry but I have found my blood pressure going up when I read this flattering review of what I see as the biggest albatross in recent footy history.

The abysmal ruck philosophy has cost the team plenty, both in terms of wins and club support in the wider community. While it was a justifiable target for experimentation at the beginning the inflexible application of a failed idea is ongoing and a health hazard for many rusted on supporters.

Lobb , hopefully, will make the game plan, that supposedly handed down on stone tablets, finally workable.

[azabob]

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Hmmm; just watched Bevo's press conference. Darcy for Lobb could well be on...

JJ still a couple of weeks away

Gardy still a chance to play

[Bornadog]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

Hmmm; just watched Bevo's press conference. Darcy for Lobb could well be on...

JJ still a couple of weeks away

Gardy still a chance to play

Wasn't happy about Slobbo's article on bailey Smith

[Grantysghost]

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Hmmm; just watched Bevo's press conference. Darcy for Lobb could well be on...

JJ still a couple of weeks away

Gardy still a chance to play

Yes I did too

Bailey has been unwell was something I took out of it.

He did kind of praise Lobb as a role player "he's become a role player".

I feel Lobb will stay and Darcy will only come in if Gardner doesn't get up.

[mjp]

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What should the forward-line look like?

Last week it was:

F: Cody, Naughts, JUH
HF: Macrae, Lobb, West

Int: McNeil, Baz

What changes?

I think there should be 2x talls 80+ % of the time. Jamarra and Naughton primarily with rest given via English and Lobb.

- So Lobb starts off and goes forward (for JUH), then Ruck (for English) who rests...when JUH goes back on. English then goes forward for Naughton (who rests) then ruck...Lobb holds forward for maybe 2-3 mins then slides off...

Game-time: 3x roles, 4x rotators so nominally they will get 75%...reality, we want Naughton at 85% which means Lobb will drop to around 65% game time...fine.

- Small Forwards. It really is Cody, West and McNeill.
Pretty simple. 2x roles on field, one rotator. Obviously about 65% each...Try and get Weightman more but he seems to blow up pretty quickly.

- We still have two spots - high forwards/rotating mids.
We battle to fill these spots - Macrae has been playing one up at the stoppage as a genuine 5th and I guess this stays with Smith tending to slide in behind him/fill the gap for him when he's off. We really need someone else in this rotation and it probably has got to be Bont...but when he's there he should play DEEP. Apart from the whole missed goals thing, he's dangerous.

In terms of personnel, I really don't think it's about that right now. It's about role and fit...it's why I battle with players like Hannan in the side alongside the 3 other talls...we are too big up there...if Garcia was available, well, at least he tackles and chases and makes a mess of oppo plans. I guess Clarke is supposed to do all that as well...IDEALLY, we would have a mid who could genuinely play as a forward (Petracca can, Taranto can, Martin can) as that would enable us to extend a rotation but we just don't so no point crying over what we don't have....it just is what it is.

[Rocco Jones]

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Yes I did too

Bailey has been unwell was something I took out of it.

He did kind of praise Lobb as a role player "he's become a role player".

I feel Lobb will stay and Darcy will only come in if Gardner doesn't get up.

I listened and I am not sure it was praise, more trying to be as nice as possible about him. He mentioned a lack of influence. I think Darcy will get a game ahead of Lobb this week actually.

Maybe we see Bad as a sub or a week off.

[lemmon]

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I think there should be 2x talls 80+ % of the time. Jamarra and Naughton primarily with rest given via English and Lobb.

- So Lobb starts off and goes forward (for JUH), then Ruck (for English) who rests...when JUH goes back on. English then goes forward for Naughton (who rests) then ruck...Lobb holds forward for maybe 2-3 mins then slides off...

Game-time: 3x roles, 4x rotators so nominally they will get 75%...reality, we want Naughton at 85% which means Lobb will drop to around 65% game time...fine.

Would we lose much only playing Marra and Naughton with English, and having Naughton take 5 minutes in the ruck each quarter? English is still spending more than 80% of time on ground with Lobb in the side anyway. Naughton's a competitor, agile and likes to throw himself around. I think he could relish getting in there and bashing and crashing for a few minutes each quarter. It also means a Hannan/Buku fits more easily into our front half, or we can squeeze another pressure small into the forward line (potentially Laith with JJ and Richards returning).

English could spend that time off the ground and Bont can play as the second tall with Marra, where I think he may end up finishing his career anyway.

It would leave us short if English went down, but we don't get much from our subs anyway, so I wouldn't mind trialing Lobb in that slot.

[mjp]

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Would we lose much only playing Marra and Naughton with English, and having Naughton take 5 minutes in the ruck each quarter? English is still spending more than 80% of time on ground with Lobb in the side anyway. Naughton's a competitor, agile and likes to throw himself around. I think he could relish getting in there and bashing and crashing for a few minutes each quarter. It also means a Hannan/Buku fits more easily into our front half, or we can squeeze another pressure small into the forward line (potentially Laith with JJ and Richards returning).

English could spend that time off the ground and Bont can play as the second tall with Marra, where I think he may end up finishing his career anyway.

It would leave us short if English went down, but we don't get much from our subs anyway, so I wouldn't mind trialing Lobb in that slot.

That's sort of what I implied was happening at Brisbane where they regularly select their version of Lobb (Fort) as the sub.

I don't have an issue with what you propose but would prob prefer we sent Gardner to the ruck than Naughton under the whole "You don't use a rolls to plough a field" role.

I think we would lose absolutely NOTHING by doing this.

[The bulldog tragician]

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I listened and I am not sure it was praise, more trying to be as nice as possible about him. He mentioned a lack of influence. I think Darcy will get a game ahead of Lobb this week actually.

Maybe we see Bad as a sub or a week off.

Gee I know BAD posts a lot but is he really the answer in our team?

[mjp]

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Gee I know BAD posts a lot but is he really the answer in our team?

That's the sort of left field thinking that might just appeal to Bevo!
:-)

[Rocco Jones]

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Gee I know BAD posts a lot but is he really the answer in our team?

Ha! Baz.

[Sedat]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 18 v Sydney

Gee I know BAD posts a lot but is he really the answer in our team?

He's always been a stats man at heart

[EasternWest]

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Gee I know BAD posts a lot but is he really the answer in our team?

Bad to ruck. It's the Bevo way.

[Bornadog]

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Bad to ruck. It's the Bevo way.

I am little short for that role.