Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

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  • DOG GOD
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2007
    • 6557

    #31
    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

    Originally posted by mjp
    Your comments about Jones, Busslinger and Clarke make too much sense. Dreamers pick kids.

    I didn't understand the Jones decision vs Richmond and it seemed pre-ordained he would be into the 22 vs Hawthorn...I am still uncertain why we are so determined to turn a junior winger/runner with elite endurance into a small forward as an aside.
    Agree, against Carl jones was fantastic on the wing, in the guts.
    I will never see #16 the same!!

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    • Danjul
      WOOF Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 1624

      #32
      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

      Originally posted by azabob
      You have said who you want to drop but at no stage have you said who should replace Jones.

      I actually have dropped Jones in my changes against West Coast.
      Well, we agree on that, but maybe we differ on when it should happen. In my case it was 2 weeks earlier.

      I would have had McLean. He has been reading the play well, covering a lot of ground, strong in congested play. He was subbed off in his last AFL game after 12 possessions in only 54% game time, but Jones has had 10 in his last 3 full games combined.

      McLean has slowed, but it hasn?t been speed on the forward line that has prevented us from winning.

      I think Baker could have been our small forward, with limited game time he has good kicked goals recently.

      The cupboard is not bare but the cook doesn?t have long enough arms.

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      • Bulldog4life
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 9607

        #33
        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

        Originally posted by danjul
        did you read what i wrote.

        To repeat:

        I have watched him/them closely for weeks.

        I am reporting on what i have seen. A very honest and factual report. No detour into emotion. Just the hard facts. Everyone is welcome to point out my factual errors.

        Here is your chance to do so.

        They are ????.
        nets.

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        • Rocket Science
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2007
          • 4854

          #34
          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

          Originally posted by mjp
          I didn't understand the Jones decision vs Richmond and it seemed pre-ordained he would be into the 22 vs Hawthorn...I am still uncertain why we are so determined to turn a junior winger/runner with elite endurance into a small forward as an aside.
          Wrong-headed or not, is there really much mystery around the key factors driving this though?

          Whether Artie deserves his spot is a separate question but it's not as if he's denying our fleet of true small forwards a run at it.
          BORDERLINE FLYING

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          • Jeanette54
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2009
            • 1279

            #35
            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

            Originally posted by Danjul
            These selections are what has killed this season.

            Too pig-headed. We have not used our talent pool well.

            In my opinion we would have been a lock in for the finals if we had played Sweet as our small forward against Geelong, Port, GWS and/or Sydney. In those games the forwards failed when the pressure was on. Or Bus.. Anyone who can kick a goal from 30m with some reliability.
            Even our premier forward is guilty being continually astray from close range. Big marks are great to watch, but squandered shots from close range are a killer for any team. Naughton shoots straight and we beat Hawthorn, pure and simple. I love his attack on the ball and his ability to keep his feet when off balance, but surely someone can teach him to employ a set shot routine that actually works.
            The truth will set you free,
            but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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            • josie
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2012
              • 4521

              #36
              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

              Originally posted by Jeanette54
              Even our premier forward is guilty being continually astray from close range. Big marks are great to watch, but squandered shots from close range are a killer for any team. Naughton shoots straight and we beat Hawthorn, pure and simple. I love his attack on the ball and his ability to keep his feet when off balance, but surely someone can teach him to employ a set shot routine that actually works.
              Agree 100%. I’m more confident when Naughty is a bit further out. We must hire a goal kicking coach and call him/her some other title if the club are worried about flak (Leon Cameron could be senior assistant and goal kicking/general kicking coach).
              Josie :)

              Our day will come
              And we'll have everything.
              We'll share the joy
              Just like '54 again.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66839

                #37
                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                Originally posted by Jeanette54
                Even our premier forward is guilty being continually astray from close range. Big marks are great to watch, but squandered shots from close range are a killer for any team. Naughton shoots straight and we beat Hawthorn, pure and simple. I love his attack on the ball and his ability to keep his feet when off balance, but surely someone can teach him to employ a set shot routine that actually works.
                He averages 58%
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5917

                  #38
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                  I think Naughton is kicking better this year than since he became a forward. He just growing into look out next year.
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66839

                    #39
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                    From AFL. com.au

                    Is it time debut BUZZ?

                    Luke Beveridge will need to replace Tom Liberatore for Sunday's game against West Coast after the inside midfielder entered concussion protocols. Toby McLean collected 28 disposals and nine clearances for Footscray to put his hand up for another shot. Ryan Gardner played in the VFL after battling a few niggles, while 2022 first-round pick Jedd Busslinger may run out of time for a debut this season but the key defender showed plenty at Box Hill City Oval on Saturday, finishing with 22 touches and nine marks. Hayden Crozier made a decent return from injury with 21 touches and nine marks. Buku Khamis was quiet after being included in the 26-man AFL squad. – Josh Gabelich

                    R22 sub: Oskar Baker (replaced Tom Liberatore)
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18991

                      #40
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      From AFL. com.au

                      Is it time debut BUZZ?
                      I think he will get a gig this week. Maybe Clarke too.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15334

                        #41
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        From AFL. com.au

                        Is it time debut BUZZ?
                        No, he has missed the 2023 boat.

                        We need to get confidence and continuity in Keath, Jones, JOD.
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18991

                          #42
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          No, he has missed the 2023 boat.

                          We need to get confidence and continuity in Keath, Jones, JOD.
                          Keath out
                          START THE BUSS!
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #43
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Keath out
                            START THE BUSS!
                            Buss & Clarke.

                            Just do it.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15472

                              #44
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              No, he has missed the 2023 boat.

                              We need to get confidence and continuity in Keath, Jones, JOD.
                              Yep.. (somehow) we are still a real shot at making the final 8 so we need to pick the team that gives us the best chance to do so and whilst selection integrity isn't one of Bevo's strong suits, he needs to select a team with an EF in mind and we aren't taking Buss or Clarke into that game.

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15334

                                #45
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 23 v West Coast Eagles

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                Yep.. (somehow) we are still a real shot at making the final 8 so we need to pick the team that gives us the best chance to do so and whilst selection integrity isn't one of Bevo's strong suits, he needs to select a team with an EF in mind and we aren't taking Buss or Clarke into that game.
                                Yep.. exactly my thoughts. This needs to be as close to our elimination final team as possible barring perhaps JJ.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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