WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

[SonofScray]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

Loved it too. Terry also experimented with the Super flood and used it a couple of games later against Essendon.

Carlton supporters in my office were still spitting chips on Monday morning - calling the Club cheats

Rolled out the super flood against Carlton, Essendon and then Hawthorn. Hawks managed it a bit better than the others, think we lost that one.

[EasternWest]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

i've never seen ange like this (thank goodness):

sstw

[D Mitchell]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

Postecoglou was a bit chunky during his playing days but still in good nick Terry Wallace was was in super good nick. During his coaching days, Wallace lost a lot of bulk, slimmed down. Fair enough, coaches don't need bulk. Ange's post playing weight regime went completely in the other direction.

[jazzadogs]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

I don't think it's black and white who was BOG and respect the difference of opinion. They both had excellent games.

Cody's leading and finishing was superb, and the two he missed could have easily been goals as well.

Bont's clean pickups, miraculous handballs and great finishing edges him. It was only the third time in his career that he has had 30+ touches and kicked 3 goals.

The stat lines weren't to prove why he was best on, but rather to point out that it wasn't just your average midfielders game.

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

I don't think it's black and white who was BOG and respect the difference of opinion. They both had excellent games.

Cody's leading and finishing was superb, and the two he missed could have easily been goals as well.

Bont's clean pickups, miraculous handballs and great finishing edges him. It was only the third time in his career that he has had 30+ touches and kicked 3 goals.

The stat lines weren't to prove why he was best on, but rather to point out that it wasn't just your average midfielders game.

Will be interesting come Brownlow night who got the 3 votes.

[hujsh]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

Will be interesting come Brownlow night who got the 3 votes.

It's a midfielder's award. The three will go to Bont

[bulldogtragic]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

It's a midfielder's award. The three will go to Bont

It’s boring as bat shit now. No one other than an accumulating kid will ever win it. So one dimensional now. Makes you wonder how guys like Grant & Wynd would ever get top 10 in a count now. Plugger lucky to be top 20. It’s becoming meaningless.

[Mantis]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

It’s boring as bat shit now. No one other than an accumulating kid will ever win it. So one dimensional now. Makes you wonder how guys like Grant & Wynd would ever get top 10 in a count now. Plugger lucky to be top 20. It’s becoming meaningless.

Given Granty once got 3 Brownlow votes in a game in which he had stats as listed below I'm sure he'd find a way.

Kicks - 3
Marks - 1
Handballs - 7
Goals - 0
Points - 0
Tackles - 1
Hit outs - 3

[mjp]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

The Garlick bag was in that famous game against Carlton at Optus Oval in 2000. We had our entire spine out injured so Plough isolated Garlick in F50 on Andrew McKay, who was well past his best. It was brilliant coaching. Eagleton kicked a bag of 7 (even though we lost narrowly from memory) when used deep forward in the same way.

Which is the funny part.

When was the last time you could actually isolate ANY forward inside 50.

[mjp]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

I don't think it's black and white who was BOG and respect the difference of opinion. They both had excellent games.

Cody's leading and finishing was superb, and the two he missed could have easily been goals as well.

Bont's clean pickups, miraculous handballs and great finishing edges him. It was only the third time in his career that he has had 30+ touches and kicked 3 goals.

The stat lines weren't to prove why he was best on, but rather to point out that it wasn't just your average midfielders game.

I wasn't trying to run Bont down. And I get the 30+ and 3. But to me Taranto had 38/10 tackles/1x goal/6 clearances and is in the same ball-park. Kelly had 33/2 tackles/3 goals/8 clearances and is in the same ball-park. I can't remember who else I plucked out as the games were a week ago and I have forgotten.

Obviously it's an ELITE ball-park but we see similar performances from mids every weekend - often multiple times in a weekend. We simply DON'T see small forwards kicking 6 in a game. We don't. Even in the table that classifies Jake Stringer, Jarrad Grant, Jason Watts and Stu Cramerie as small forwards we haven't seen it since 2017. That's 6 full seasons ago.

Bont is and was amazing. Cody produced a genuine once in a career type game...I mean, let's hope not but let's also face reality - this isn't happening again. I just think we mark forwards (and in particular small forwards) on an impossibly hard scale.

[EasternWest]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

Which is the funny part.

When was the last time you could actually isolate ANY forward inside 50.

In our forward line or any other team? Because those are two different things.

[Mantis]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

I wasn't trying to run Bont down. And I get the 30+ and 3. But to me Taranto had 38/10 tackles/1x goal/6 clearances and is in the same ball-park. Kelly had 33/2 tackles/3 goals/8 clearances and is in the same ball-park. I can't remember who else I plucked out as the games were a week ago and I have forgotten.

Obviously it's an ELITE ball-park but we see similar performances from mids every weekend - often multiple times in a weekend. We simply DON'T see small forwards kicking 6 in a game. We don't. Even in the table that classifies Jake Stringer, Jarrad Grant, Jason Watts and Stu Cramerie as small forwards we haven't seen it since 2017. That's 6 full seasons ago.

Bont is and was amazing. Cody produced a genuine once in a career type game...I mean, let's hope not but let's also face reality - this isn't happening again. I just think we mark forwards (and in particular small forwards) on an impossibly hard scale.

Given in his first 40 games Cody had kicked 5 goals twice (one of those in a half before he disclocated his elbow) it isn't a stretch to suggest that Cody will have similar games in the future.

[mjp]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

In our forward line or any other team? Because those are two different things.

In ANY forward line.

[EasternWest]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

In ANY forward line.

Interesting.

Seems to me like one of our big issues is our backs often getting isolated one out with their opponents in space.

[ledge]

Re: WB Game Day V North Melbourne R14 2023 Sun 18/6, 4:40PM - Marvel Stadium

Which is the funny part.

When was the last time you could actually isolate ANY forward inside 50.

Hawkins and Cameron are experts at isolating . They run opposites sides of the ground or one goes leading and the other stays back . Never see them get in the way of each other . Which beggars belief why can’t we do it with three talls!