The Bevo Era & Percentage

[bulldogtragic]

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What you are saying is we need to be more efficient with our possessions. Not sure why we are scared of the corridor.

Is it not the game plan? (I assume it is since we keep doing it)

[Bornadog]

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Is it not the game plan? (I assume it is since we keep doing it)

I know it is the game plan, but that is what I am saying, why are we not using the corridor.

[bulldogtragic]

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I know it is the game plan, but that is what I am saying, why are we not using the corridor.

I’d like Bevo to tell us. I’d really like to understand the reason since other teams are using it to great effect.

[Bornadog]

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I’d like Bevo to tell us. I’d really like to understand the reason since other teams are using it to great effect.

Is it because, as Jeemak says, we are playing conservative footy and trying to be more defensive. Playing the wings is less risky.

[bulldogtragic]

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Is it because, as Jeemak says, we are playing conservative footy and trying to be more defensive. Playing the wings is less risky.

I’m not sure. But there must be some reason for it. I’m just not sure what it is.

[anfo27]

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Is it because, as Jeemak says, we are playing conservative footy and trying to be more defensive. Playing the wings is less risky.

I think thats exactly what it is. Protecting our fragile defence but its also destroying our forward line. Winning as many games as we did playing the rubbish we served up, has made our coaches think this method is working. We were just lucky. Got Freo over there when they were worse that us, carlton when they were horribly out of form, GWS without Greene, Crows without Walker & Tilthorpe. Just felt like play crap & still win but once we get our confidence back we have so much room for improvement. Still waiting.

[Bullies]

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I’m not sure. But there must be some reason for it. I’m just not sure what it is.

Is it because we have to many of the same type of mid fielders who are happy to accumulate possession. We don't hurt teams. Our mids don't play accountable football and are not overly quick so opposition are happy to let them accumulate. They need to change it up and take risks and take the game on.

[Bornadog]

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Is it because we have to many of the same type of mid fielders who are happy to accumulate possession. We don't hurt teams. Our mids don't play accountable football and are not overly quick so opposition are happy to let them accumulate. They need to change it up and take risks and take the game on.

But is that the reason we don't play the corridor? (that is what we were discussing)

[bulldogtragic]

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Percentage under Bevo:


Scores Against:

2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)
2023: averaging 78.25 per game - well over 10% above 2016 & 2021 levels - about 7% better than ?rest ?

Probably a coincidence:

We gave us 78 points against Sydney & GWS - this season average and lost

We restricted Richmond to our 2016 & 2021 average of 71 points - and won

When our defence holds to 71 points or better we do very well. Hold both GWS & Sydney to 71 and we win both. I guess we know where we need to focus where we are dangerous.

[bulldogtragic]

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Percentage under Bevo:

Year: percentage (for/against)

2015: 115.12 (2,101/1,825)
2016: 115.41 (1,857/1,609)
2017: 97.07 (1,857/1,913)
2018: 77.32 (1,575/2,037)
2019: 107.24 (1,941/1,810)
2020: 106.67 (** C19: 1,103/1,034)
2021: 132.84 (1,994/1,501) - missed top four on percentage
2022: 108.89 (1,973/1,812)
2023: 108.7 (1,919/1,766)

Average: 106%

Scores For: Settled around 1,900 per season - 86 points per game

Scores Against:

2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)
2023: 76.8 per game - well over 10% above 2016 & 2021 levels - about 7% better than ?rest? average

*2024: 123%
Points For: 94.5 per game
Points Against: 76.8 per game

So far percentage highest since 2016 & 2021 owing to higher than Bevo era average scoring (+8 per game), owing to our increased accuracy this year. While our defence is just a goal a game higher than 2016 & 2021 (on par with last year) which are outliers in the Bevo era. This is despite being 3 wins, 3 losses.

[bulldogtragic]

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*2024: 123.9% (third highest, 0.4% of being second highest)
Points For: 95.7 per game
Points Against: 77.3 per game

So far percentage highest since 2016 & 2021 owing to higher than Bevo era average scoring (nearly +10 per game), owing to our increased accuracy this year. While our defence is just a goal a game higher than 2016 & 2021 (on par with last year) which are outliers in the Bevo era. This is despite being 4 wins, 5 losses.


Seems accuracy improvements and filling our boots against poor teams have been addressed as areas of improvement which we?ve improved. Our defence is holding up despite for the most part only playing one genuine KPD and moving out Richards. The scoring is also good despite Marra & Lobb pretty much non factors this year. Just disappointing the wins aren?t on the board.

[westdog54]

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Worst thing about last night was how many gettable goals we missed. Could have really poured on the pain.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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*2024: 123.9% (third highest, 0.4% of being second highest)
Points For: 95.7 per game
Points Against: 77.3 per game

So far percentage highest since 2016 & 2021 owing to higher than Bevo era average scoring (nearly +10 per game), owing to our increased accuracy this year. While our defence is just a goal a game higher than 2016 & 2021 (on par with last year) which are outliers in the Bevo era. This is despite being 4 wins, 5 losses.


Seems accuracy improvements and filling our boots against poor teams have been addressed as areas of improvement which we?ve improved. Our defence is holding up despite for the most part only playing one genuine KPD and moving out Richards.

The scoring is also good despite Marra & Lobb pretty much non factors this year. Just disappointing the wins aren?t on the board.

Agree, the losses to Hawthorn and Freo in particular might really hurt us down the stretch. We've got a block of 5 matches now against GWS, Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane and Freo. Our season is either going to be done and dusted at the end of that group of matches, or we'll have demonstrated that we've found our groove.

[MrMahatma]

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Agree, the losses to Hawthorn and Freo in particular might really hurt us down the stretch. We've got a block of 5 matches now against GWS, Sydney, Collingwood, Brisbane and Freo. Our season is either going to be done and dusted at the end of that group of matches, or we'll have demonstrated that we've found our groove.

How many do we need to win for us to have found our groove? 3? 4?

[Sedat]

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How many do we need to win for us to have found our groove? 3? 4?

We need to be bare minimum 3-2 in that block and square the season going into our bye. Would much prefer 4-1, which I think we are capable of - I have us as 50-50 the next 2 weeks (GWS currently going like busteds and are vulnerable, Swans at home off back to back short breaks for them and travel). We are also potentially 50-50 against Collingwood if they still have injury issues affecting their depth in 3 weeks time, and I have us better than even money against both Brisbane and Freo (both at home).

Defining 5 weeks coming up for us and the Bevo era. It's actually exciting to have this challenge to see exactly where we are at in 2024 and how our game plan adjustments for 2024 are progressing. Would rather we fail trying to adapt through personnel/game plan than plod along in mid table no-mans land.