The Bevo Era & Percentage

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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14309

    #31
    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

    Looking at our percentage this year tells us we are a good side , lose by little and win big.
    If we won a few close ones we would have been regarded as a premiership contender, the margin is tiny. Eg an extra 14 points would have given us two more wins which places us 4th as opposed to 11th.
    Also shows the importance of accurate kicking, even just 3 missed shots.
    Bring back the biff

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18287

      #32
      Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

      Originally posted by westdog54
      Worst thing about last night was how many gettable goals we missed. Could have really poured on the pain.
      19.19 - 38 scoring shots.

      Absolutely could have won by more!
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #33
        Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

        Moved into clear second on percentage. With Sydney clear first. W/L aside, the two best teams on percentage up against each other this week.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • angelopetraglia
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6843

          #34
          Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

          We are ranked #3 for offence - points scored. Sydney #1 and Geelong #2.

          We are ranked #5 for defence - points conceded Sydney #1, Freo #2. Melbourne #3, Lions #4

          That is a decent profile after 10 games.

          (What I found interesting looking at the stats is that Carlton is ranked #15 for defence with only #16 Eagles, #17 Tigers and #18 Kangas worse than them. That is not a top four profile.)

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14309

            #35
            Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
            We are ranked #3 for offence - points scored. Sydney #1 and Geelong #2.

            We are ranked #5 for defence - points conceded Sydney #1, Freo #2. Melbourne #3, Lions #4

            That is a decent profile after 10 games.

            (What I found interesting looking at the stats is that Carlton is ranked #15 for defence with only #16 Eagles, #17 Tigers and #18 Kangas worse than them. That is not a top four profile.)
            I imagine Carlton’s numbers wouldn’t be a top 8 profile either.
            Bring back the biff

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #36
              Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

              Percentage under Bevo:

              Year: percentage (for/against)

              2015: 115.12 (2,101/1,825)
              2016: 115.41 (1,857/1,609)
              2017: 97.07 (1,857/1,913)
              2018: 77.32 (1,575/2,037)
              2019: 107.24 (1,941/1,810)
              2020: 106.67 (** C19: 1,103/1,034)
              2021: 132.84 (1,994/1,501) - missed top four on percentage
              2022: 108.89 (1,973/1,812)
              2023: 108.7 (1,919/1,766)
              *2024: 117.7 (1,666/1,415)

              Average: 106%

              Scores For: Settled around 1,900 per season - 86 points per game

              Scores Against:

              2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
              Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)
              2023: averaging 78.25 per game - well over 10% above 2016 & 2021 levels - about 7% better than ?rest? average

              2024: 117.7% (11.7% points above our average, 9% points above last year).

              92.5 points for - about 6.5 points above Bevo era levels
              78.6 points against - still a bit off 2016 & 2021 levels
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • SonofScray
                Coaching Staff
                • Apr 2008
                • 4234

                #37
                Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                We are ranked #3 for offence - points scored. Sydney #1 and Geelong #2.

                We are ranked #5 for defence - points conceded Sydney #1, Freo #2. Melbourne #3, Lions #4

                That is a decent profile after 10 games.

                (What I found interesting looking at the stats is that Carlton is ranked #15 for defence with only #16 Eagles, #17 Tigers and #18 Kangas worse than them. That is not a top four profile.)
                That reads like contender stats to me.

                Just have to make it now. My Ladder predictor update has us finishing 7th now.
                Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                • angelopetraglia
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6843

                  #38
                  Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                  Originally posted by SonofScray
                  That reads like contender stats to me.

                  Just have to make it now. My Ladder predictor update has us finishing 7th now.
                  How many more wins are you giving us?

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                  • SonofScray
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 4234

                    #39
                    Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                    How many more wins are you giving us?
                    3, if I recall what I plugged in correctly.

                    I think we roll Sydney and drop One of Nth, Melb or Adelaide, inexplicably.
                    Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #40
                      Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                      Percentage under Bevo:

                      Year: percentage (for/against)

                      2015: 115.12 (2,101/1,825)
                      2016: 115.41 (1,857/1,609)
                      2017: 97.07 (1,857/1,913)
                      2018: 77.32 (1,575/2,037)
                      2019: 107.24 (1,941/1,810)
                      2020: 106.67 (** C19: 1,103/1,034)
                      2021: 132.84 (1,994/1,501) - missed top four on percentage
                      2022: 108.89 (1,973/1,812)
                      2023: 108.7 (1,919/1,766)
                      *2024: 122.4 (1,863/1,522)

                      Average: 106%

                      Scores For: Settled around 1,900 per season - 86 points per game

                      Scores Against:

                      2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
                      Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)

                      2024: 122.4% (16.4% points above our average, 13.7% points above last year).

                      93.2 points for - about 7.2 points above Bevo era levels
                      76.1 points against - only a goal a game above 2016 & 2021 levels


                      Gross numbers:

                      For: Just 71 points of being the highest scoring team in the comp. If we were more accurate at kicking for goal, we would be the highest scoring team this year.

                      Against: We are going to be around 50 points off being the best defensive team (Freo ahead but play today). I?d suggest a Barrass type wouldn?t leak some of the easier goals our third talls can give up. Get a guy like him, and I?d say we become the stingiest team if the mids keep the pressure up.


                      Take away: Scoring more than a goal more than the Bevo era average per game, and conceding just a goal a game more than the 2016 & 2021 sides. An ominous sign considering we could get Johnno down every week from now on to try to straighten us up for the rest of the year and Lobb has improved our defence. Every chance these data points marry up with 2016 & 2021…
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18030

                        #41
                        Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                        The form over the last 4 weeks eclipses anything the 2021 side did in terms of overall sustained performance. It?s also better than anything we did in 2016 outside of that finals series from heaven.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #42
                          Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                          Percentage under Bevo:

                          Year: percentage (for/against)

                          2015: 115.12 (2,101/1,825)
                          2016: 115.41 (1,857/1,609)
                          2017: 97.07 (1,857/1,913)
                          2018: 77.32 (1,575/2,037)
                          2019: 107.24 (1,941/1,810)
                          2020: 106.67 (** C19: 1,103/1,034)
                          2021: 132.84 (1,994/1,501) - missed top four on percentage
                          2022: 108.89 (1,973/1,812)
                          2023: 108.7 (1,919/1,766)
                          *2024: 123.8 (2,073/1,675)

                          Average: 106%

                          Scores For: Settled around 1,900 per season - 86 points per game

                          Scores Against:

                          2016 & 2021: very low by our historical Bevo average - circa 70 points per game
                          Rest: around the 1,850 mark - 84 points per game (20% higher than 2016 & 2021)

                          2024: 123.8% (17.8% points above our average, 15.1% points above last year).

                          94.2 points for - about 8.2 points above Bevo era levels
                          76.1 points against - only a goal a game above 2016 & 2021 levels


                          Gross numbers:

                          For: Just 48 points of being the highest scoring team in the comp (Swans). If we were more accurate at kicking for goal, we would be the highest scoring team this year.

                          Against: 7 points off being the best defensive team (Freo). I?d suggest a Barrass type wouldn?t leak some of the easier goals our third talls can give up. Get a guy like him, and I?d say we become the stingiest team if the mids keep the pressure up.


                          Take away: Scoring nearly a 1.5 goals a game more than the Bevo era average per game, and conceding just a goal a game more than the 2016 & 2021 sides.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #43
                            Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                            Our highest percentage in the Bevo era with 2016 & 2021.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14309

                              #44
                              Re: The Bevo Era & Percentage

                              Can’t go claiming Bevo is a defensive coach with these stats, he is all about scoring high.
                              We have had two 90 odd point wins this year and a few around 9 goals . Think we only got belted three times where were never in the game.
                              We aren’t a small win, lose big side we were known for before Bevo.
                              Bring back the biff

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