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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7697

    #76
    Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

    We'll just pick him up in the psd then.

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    • WBFC4FFC
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 396

      #77
      Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
      We'll just pick him up in the psd then.
      Posturing.

      TheSaints are offering an ordinary contract v. the Bulldogs, yet all of a sudden they bring out he's finished in the Top 5 in the B&F!

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #78
        Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

        Looking at it, if 46 is part of the deal for Grundy.
        46 to Aints for Billings (with salary picked up)
        46 & 56 with Coffield to dogs for 40, 69 & 72

        Aints offer 40 (2nd round) and a slight upgrade (35 for 46) for Henry. If there?s only 55-60 picks in the draft they upgrade into the second round and the slight downgrade makes no difference.


        ????


        Or if Freo want 35, 40 & 69 for Henry and St Kilda happy to get back 46 & 59:

        Freo: 35, 40 & 69 (very possibly packaged up to a pick from GCS: either 22, 24, 27 or 28 after selling 10 to Dees/North/Crows)
        Aints: Henry, 59 & 72 (paying Coffield, 35 & 56)
        Dogs: 46 & 56 with Coffield (paying 40, 69 & 72)

        Dogs net 127 draft points and get Coffield
        Freo possibly trade into the mid 20’s - good price for Henry
        Aints turn Coffield, a late 2nd into Henry and a fourth rounder

        Makes sense to me.
        Last edited by bulldogtragic; 10-10-2023, 10:31 PM.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44633

          #79
          Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

          Originally posted by choconmientay
          SOS seems like posturing here around Dow vs Coffield trade values. This probably means he would want similar or better for Coffield than he'd pay for Dow:

          Zero Hanger
          SOS drafted Dow, he didn't draft Coffield and that was the same draft.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11159

            #80
            Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

            Originally posted by choconmientay
            SOS seems like posturing here around Dow vs Coffield trade values. This probably means he would want similar or better for Coffield than he'd pay for Dow:

            Zero Hanger
            And Bob Skilton won three Brownlows but I'm not giving up more than a third round pick for him since he's 84.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #81
              Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

              Updated: works well now:

              Freo: 35, 39 & 68 > GCS Pick 23
              Aints: Henry, 59 & 71 (paying Coffield, 35 & 55)
              Dogs: 45 & 55 with Coffield (paying 39, 68 & 71)

              Dogs net 156 draft points and get Coffield
              GCS net 242 Draft points more
              Freo get Pick 23 for Henry
              Aints turn Coffield & a late 2nd into Henry and a fourth rounder

              Win-Win-Win-Win


              Updated: Covers Croft at 11 and points for Lual if needed with Sweet for 48 as reported is likely to happen. Happy to give Port pick 73 if needed. Then it’s Pick 5 (Watson?), Croft, Lual (?) and maybe a late re-draft like Bedendo with rookie upgrade/s (Scott at least) plus Harmes & Coffield as our trade/draft. Two rookie draft picks, an SSP selection and MSD pick.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44633

                #82
                Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                Brilliant BT,
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11839

                  #83
                  Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Updated: works well now:

                  Freo: 35, 39 & 68 > GCS Pick 23
                  Aints: Henry, 59 & 71 (paying Coffield, 35 & 55)
                  Dogs: 45 & 55 with Coffield (paying 39, 68 & 71)

                  Dogs net 156 draft points and get Coffield
                  GCS net 242 Draft points more
                  Freo get Pick 23 for Henry
                  Aints turn Coffield & a late 2nd into Henry and a fourth rounder

                  Win-Win-Win-Win
                  I like it, the only issue being if Saints consider that fair. I think they should but who knows
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #84
                    Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    I like it, the only issue being if Saints consider that fair. I think they should but who knows
                    True. But… Henry & 71 - for - Coffield (no games in 2 years) and 35.

                    SOS would be crazy to blow up getting Henry in considering Gresham & Shiel have both now blown up.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11839

                      #85
                      Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      True. But… Henry & 71 - for - Coffield (no games in 2 years) and 35.

                      SOS would be crazy to blow up getting Henry in considering Gresham & Shiel have both now blown up.
                      That's assuming you look at it as a whole. SOS might say 'nah you should pay up more for Coffield and we'll worry about Henry'
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #86
                        Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        That's assuming you look at it as a whole. SOS might say 'nah you should pay up more for Coffield and we'll worry about Henry'
                        Then SOS can not have Henry and lose Coffield in the PSD. If we show Coffield good faith by including a second and two fourth rounders to get him we’ve done our part to get him to walk for free.

                        I don’t rate SOS, but surely he’s not that silly/stubborn?
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11159

                          #87
                          Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          True. But? Henry & 71 - for - Coffield (no games in 2 years) and 35.

                          SOS would be crazy to blow up getting Henry in considering Gresham & Shiel have both now blown up.
                          Why has Gresham blown up? If Saints get end of first round compo seems like they will take it (and it seems a reasonable chance based on the other compo so far):

                          ST KILDA would be comfortable matching Essendon's contract offer to Jade Gresham if it does not trigger end of first-round compensation for the restricted free agent.

                          The Bombers plan to lodge paperwork for Gresham in the next 24 hours and list manager Adrian Dodoro said the club had not yet been in talks with the Saints as they look to secure the 26-year-old without negotiating a trade.

                          St Kilda's acting football boss David Misson, however, said Gresham would only move as a free agent if the Bombers' offer triggered adequate compensation, with the club "hoping to get an end of first-round pick".

                          "The ball really is in Essendon's court there to lodge an offer for Jade. Once that's done, we need to decide if we're going to match that offer and potentially facilitate a trade," Misson told SEN on Wednesday.

                          "If the compensation we get offered isn't what we'd like, then we would decide whether we want to match it. Jade has a great relationship with Ross (Lyon), so if we have to we'd be very happy to keep Jade at St Kilda if that's the way it starts to look." ? Nathan Schmook

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11839

                            #88
                            Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Then SOS can not have Henry and lose Coffield in the PSD. If we show Coffield good faith by including a second and two fourth rounders to get him we’ve done our part to get him to walk for free.

                            I don’t rate SOS, but surely he’s not that silly/stubborn?
                            Yeah guess it depends on if they think there's a way to do it without us. I'm comforted by the presence of the PSD regardless
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #89
                              Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              Why has Gresham blown up? If Saints get end of first round compo seems like they will take it (and it seems a reasonable chance based on the other compo so far):
                              I thought I read it didn’t get a first and Aints wanted to trade?

                              But that’s by the by for this.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44633

                                #90
                                Re: Nick Coffield nominates Bulldogs

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Then SOS can not have Henry and lose Coffield in the PSD. If we show Coffield good faith by including a second and two fourth rounders to get him we’ve done our part to get him to walk for free.

                                I don’t rate SOS, but surely he’s not that silly/stubborn?
                                SOS is pragmatic and gets deals done. Not sure he has the stones to push Coffield into the PSD so a deal like you have proposed might appeal.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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