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  • lemmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6506

    Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
    Yeah he is another I don't get what we are doing with.

    I think we really set up our role guys to fail giving them such different roles when they go back to VFL.

    Harmes has plenty of CBAs when in the VFL. If we aren't going to do that in AFL with lockdowns or whatever, play him in a wing/forward role primarily at VFL level.

    Daniel doesn't look at option at HBF in AFL level yet it's where we have played him in VFL. I'd like him spend time forward in the VFL.

    Garcia heaps of CBAs at VFL level and played forward in AFL. I'd like him to spend time fwd and wing as well as CBAs when he is inevitably black in the VFL.

    Sanders atm probably a 25-30% CBA guy at AFL if he gets back in anytime soon. Give him some time elsewhere during in the VFL.
    Caleb and Garcia felt like coaching calls that lacked conviction.

    Caleb apparently went back to VFL level to 're-train' as a half-back flanker after being shuffled around so often. Great, I'm here for that. But why don't we actually leave him there to do that?

    You can't give him two games, then pick him as the travelling emergency (because he's the next-best player on the list), force him back in as sub then play him in that same utility role that apparently has been to his detriment.

    On one hand we're saying, 'let's reset and get you back to some consistency', but that's thrown out the window when it's convenient. Take Poulter or Baker to Perth and pick Daniel when he's actually demanded it in the position we're asking him to play.

    Garcia is clearly a high-standard inside mid and a bog ordinary small forward/half forward. We've seen it at Footscray and we've seen it in the ones. Why pick him unless we're actually going to give him some inside-mid time? We're shoving a square peg into a round hole and it's to the detriment of the player.

    Libba is out, we're getting belted around the footy, surely Garcia can spend some time on the footy??

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44369

      Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      Yeah he is another I don't get what we are doing with.

      I think we really set up our role guys to fail giving them such different roles when they go back to VFL.

      Harmes has plenty of CBAs when in the VFL. If we aren't going to do that in AFL with lockdowns or whatever, play him in a wing/forward role primarily at VFL level.

      Daniel doesn't look at option at HBF in AFL level yet it's where we have played him in VFL. I'd like him spend time forward in the VFL.

      Garcia heaps of CBAs at VFL level and played forward in AFL. I'd like him to spend time fwd and wing as well as CBAs when he is inevitably black in the VFL.

      Sanders atm probably a 25-30% CBA guy at AFL if he gets back in anytime soon. Give him some time elsewhere during in the VFL.
      Regarding Daniels, a return to the back line was a more recent decision, prior to that whenever he's been in the B side it's been as a midfielder. It appears to me that the logic behind the move is to potentially free up Richards to spend some more time in the midfield.
      Sanders seems to be more of a 40% midfield CBA option when given a full game. If he's in the VFL he needs to focus more on the midfield and be played there.
      Harmes is a spare parts player and we appear to have deviated away from how we might have originally planned to use him.

      I do think we've used the VFL side this year to prepare players for where they might potentially be used at the senior level.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Bullies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 1807

        Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Regarding Daniels, a return to the back line was a more recent decision, prior to that whenever he's been in the B side it's been as a midfielder. It appears to me that the logic behind the move is to potentially free up Richards to spend some more time in the midfield.
        Sanders seems to be more of a 40% midfield CBA option when given a full game. If he's in the VFL he needs to focus more on the midfield and be played there.
        Harmes is a spare parts player and we appear to have deviated away from how we might have originally planned to use him.

        I do think we've used the VFL side this year to prepare players for where they might potentially be used at the senior level.
        Not sure they do want Daniel down back. Understanding his piddly little kicks and his running around in circles slow the momentum where they prefer the team to run and gun. One of the reasons he is not in the team.

        With Weightman out i wouldn't mind seeing him down forward as he has the smarts and not many of our other smalls do. His days of on ball are well and truly gone.

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        • jazzadogs
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Oct 2008
          • 5587

          Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

          Originally posted by comrade
          Yeah, why you wouldn?t clamp him onto one of Serong or Brayshaw I have no idea.
          The even more bizarre thing is that in his post match, Bevo said that Caleb had been doing a defensive role on Serong. It was very effective because he only had 16 touches in the second half, down from 21.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18912

            Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

            Originally posted by jazzadogs
            The even more bizarre thing is that in his post match, Bevo said that Caleb had been doing a defensive role on Serong. It was very effective because he only had 16 touches in the second half, down from 21.
            Bevo looks down upon you if you weren't aware of that most conspicuous of moves JD.

            Caleb is a known tagger!

            BT COME BACK!​

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21614

              Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

              Bevo said that Caleb at times curbed him, but at other times didn't.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • Bullies
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 1807

                Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Bevo said that Caleb at times curbed him, but at other times didn't.
                Bevo must have been watching a different game. No one was playing on Serong. Bevo would probably call that a hard tag.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18912

                  Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  Bevo said that Caleb at times curbed him, but at other times didn't.
                  He was hard to stop, throwing Caleb at the problem and the comments afterwards were bizarre i thought. "you may not have noticed".

                  Hey you've never played a stopper role before, i said last week publicly we are putting you at half back to get some consistency, so go stop their best mid please.

                  Last edited by Grantysghost; 29-04-2024, 08:00 AM.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15327

                    Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                    We've just set Harmes up to fail... we often do that with mids we stick on a HFF and expect them to be effective.

                    Either he gets CBA's & plays in a defensive role or he doesn't play.

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                    • Ozza
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6407

                      Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      We've just set Harmes up to fail... we often do that with mids we stick on a HFF and expect them to be effective.

                      Either he gets CBA's & plays in a defensive role or he doesn't play.
                      Spot on.
                      When we got Harmes I originally thought - 'ok - well it looks like we are trying to address the defensive side of the midfield- he might be able to help'.
                      The way he is being used will mean the end of him as a league footballer.
                      How Beveridge could think that sending Caleb to Serong - rather than sending Harmes to Fyfe or Serong - was the move, is yet another demonstration of why he shouldn't be our coach anymore.

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                      • angelopetraglia
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6802

                        Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                        Harmes on the footy show https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1789468837265461659

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                        • angelopetraglia
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6802

                          Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                          The leading questions from both Lloyd and Kornes are bordering on disgraceful to a new player at the club. Asking questions to support their own beliefs rather than trying to understand anything new.

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15213

                            Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                            The leading questions from both Lloyd and Kornes are bordering on disgraceful to a new player at the club. Asking questions to support their own beliefs rather than trying to understand anything new.
                            Absolutely f***king disrespectful.

                            Kudos to Harmes who answered both questions extremely well.

                            I do not say this lightly but the club should boycott channel 9, The Age, 3aw and SEN.
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6802

                              Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              Absolutely f***king disrespectful.

                              Kudos to Harmes who answered both questions extremely well.

                              I do not say this lightly but the club should boycott channel 9, The Age, 3aw and SEN.
                              I don't believe boycotts are the awnser, but their obession with Bevo is embarassing. Kane on his show on the AFL website. I didn't learn anything about the Dogs last night, it was all about how Richmond played. Agree that Richmond was poor, but he didn't give any kudos to the Dogs for bouncing back. His only compliment was to Sam Darcy who he said is a genrational talent.

                              The Dogs almost won by 100 points. Richmond beat Sydney six weeks ago. Richmond only lost to Carlton by 5 points eight weeks ago. They have a lot of injuries. But they were absolutely massacred last night. Some credit has to go to the team who beat them.

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15213

                                Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs- James Harmes

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                I don't believe boycotts are the awnser, but their obession with Bevo is embarassing. Kane on his show on the AFL website. I didn't learn anything about the Dogs last night, it was all about how Richmond played. Agree that Richmond was poor, but he didn't give any kudos to the Dogs for bouncing back. His only compliment was to Sam Darcy who he said is a genrational talent.

                                The Dogs almost won by 100 points. Richmond beat Sydney six weeks ago. Richmond only lost to Carlton by 5 points eight weeks ago. They have a lot of injuries. But they were absolutely massacred last night. Some credit has to go to the team who beat them.
                                Disagree, why put our players in the firing line with comments like that? As you said we won by 90 odd points and half the interview was about our “top four list”

                                We have put up this bullshit treatment rightly or wrongly for a couple of years.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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