WOOF Welcomes Ryley Sanders to the Kennel

[silverreaver]

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Really feel like this kid will be a star for us. Think in hindsight we won't mind what we gave up for him.

Absolutely - he's got everything he needs to succeed as a footballer. It will be interesting to see how he fares in the preseason games, particularly considering he's likely to debut round 1.

[SquirrelGrip]

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Loved the interview on the club website with his Dad Adam. His advice?

Adam Sanders

Just to make sure he?s putting everything into it and setting his career up. So do the extras, do the, you know, all the extra training, all the extra recovery, get your diet right so get all the habits right, for the rest of your career hopefully.

Definitely has strong family support and head screwed on properly.

[stefoid]

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Just remember that the two 1sts we paid with this year turned out to be 13 and 23 in the end

We still would have had to burn 13 for lower picks , or spend it on croft, because GWS would have bid on Croft at 12 to keep us away from Leake.

A future 1st, pick 23 and whatever pick 13 would have turned into -> thats what we paid for Sanders and a good chunk of Croft.

[hujsh]

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Just remember that the two 1sts we paid with this year turned out to be 13 and 23 in the end

We still would have had to burn 13 for lower picks , or spend it on croft, because GWS would have bid on Croft at 12 to keep us away from Leake.

A future 1st, pick 23 and whatever pick 13 would have turned into -> thats what we paid for Sanders and a good chunk of Croft.

Yeah given the F/S and academy picks the only real risk with the trade is what the future first becomes next year. If it's a bad year and ends up being high pick (taking into account next year's F/S and academy picks) then it will look pretty bad. But even a decent year (top 10, not even finals) probably makes the trade look okay assuming there's a decently compromised draft again next year.

[Bornadog]

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Yeah given the F/S and academy picks the only real risk with the trade is what the future first becomes next year. If it's a bad year and ends up being high pick (taking into account next year's F/S and academy picks) then it will look pretty bad. But even a decent year (top 10, not even finals) probably makes the trade look okay assuming there's a decently compromised draft again next year.

I still don't like the fact we don't have a first round pick next year. (at this stage)

[bulldogtragic]

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Just remember that the two 1sts we paid with this year turned out to be 13 and 23 in the end

We still would have had to burn 13 for lower picks , or spend it on croft, because GWS would have bid on Croft at 12 to keep us away from Leake.

A future 1st, pick 23 and whatever pick 13 would have turned into -> thats what we paid for Sanders and a good chunk of Croft.

The way I look at it is a bit simpler. Pick 23 is virtually equal to the picks we got from GCS this year at the time we used them after shuffling (only 100 points less - made up by the Aints trade with Coffield). So if you cancel them out as it was a points trade to get Sanders.

It’s essentially, to my thinking, Pick 13 & F1 for Pick 6 & F3.

That’s a good trade for a kid seemingly as good as Sanders, while securing Croft, and grabbing Freijah/Smith while getting the extra third in order to get Harmes.

It’s looking very good at this early stage.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Yeah given the F/S and academy picks the only real risk with the trade is what the future first becomes next year. If it's a bad year and ends up being high pick (taking into account next year's F/S and academy picks) then it will look pretty bad. But even a decent year (top 10, not even finals) probably makes the trade look okay assuming there's a decently compromised draft again next year.

A big year from Sanders plus break outs from Darcy and Jamarra and we can make that future first 19 before Academy/Father Son Picks.

[GVGjr]

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I seem to recall some hesitation from some supporters on drafting a player from Tassie given their impending introduction into the AFL.
Has Ryley's outstanding preseason form helped ease those concerns or is it still in the back of your mind.

Another area of concern was essentially using 3 x 1st round picks to get us up to the top end of the draft order. So again does all the encouraging news of Sanders progress so far and the form the has displayed helped ease any concerns?

[hujsh]

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I seem to recall some hesitation from some supporters on drafting a player from Tassie given their impending introduction into the AFL.
Has Ryley's outstanding preseason form helped ease those concerns or is it still in the back of your mind.

Another area of concern was essentially using 3 x 1st round picks to get us up to the top end of the draft order. So again does all the encouraging news of Sanders progress so far and the form the has displayed helped ease any concerns?

My main concern was actually that he might be try to replicate his favourite player as a child, Garry Ablett Jr and be the face of a new franchise. That fact it's in Tasmania actually makes me more comfortable it won't happen and his having already lived in Melbourne a couple years helps too.

[Bornadog]

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I seem to recall some hesitation from some supporters on drafting a player from Tassie given their impending introduction into the AFL.
Has Ryley's outstanding preseason form helped ease those concerns or is it still in the back of your mind.

Another area of concern was essentially using 3 x 1st round picks to get us up to the top end of the draft order. So again does all the encouraging news of Sanders progress so far and the form the has displayed helped ease any concerns?

The go home to Tassie factor will always be in the back of my mind, but we did the right thing to snag pick 6 - no regrets there

[GVGjr]

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The go home to Tassie factor will always be in the back of my mind, but we did the right thing to snag pick 6 - no regrets there

Do you have the same concerns will all interstate draftees or is it just the fact that the new team in Tassie being a big deal might pose an even greater risk?

When I consider Sanders, he's boarded in Melbourne for 2 years and now he's signed in with us. By the time a team in Tassie becomes a real consideration he's probably been in Melbourne for 5 or 6 years and will have a variety of new friends all based here.
He's a Launceston boy as well and I doubt he has strong ties to Hobart. I guess it's a consideration but at some point backing the club and culture here should be more than enough.

[Grantysghost]

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No concerns for me. They will get loads of concessions. So 3x first round picks and they can have him.

[azabob]

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My main concern was actually that he might be try to replicate his favourite player as a child, Garry Ablett Jr and be the face of a new franchise. That fact it's in Tasmania actually makes me more comfortable it won't happen and his having already lived in Melbourne a couple years helps too.

Wasn't one of Ablett's drivers to step outside of the other Geelong players shadows and show he actually is an out and out gun with or without support from his teamates?

It also seemed his relationship with Mark Thompson was quite strained, which makes sense in hindsight...

[azabob]

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I seem to recall some hesitation from some supporters on drafting a player from Tassie given their impending introduction into the AFL.
Has Ryley's outstanding preseason form helped ease those concerns or is it still in the back of your mind.

Another area of concern was essentially using 3 x 1st round picks to get us up to the top end of the draft order. So again does all the encouraging news of Sanders progress so far and the form the has displayed helped ease any concerns?

I have no concerns at all about Sanders leaving Melbourne for Tasmania.

He made a considered decision to leave Tassie to board in Melbourne to get the best out of himself as an underager. He will have spent a good 5-6 years living in Melbourne by the time Tassie comes in.

Draft picks wise, it is what it is. We gave them up but damn, from all reports it looks like a really astute decision.

Clearly both points of concern won't be known for a number of years.

[Bornadog]

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Do you have the same concerns will all interstate draftees or is it just the fact that the new team in Tassie being a big deal might pose an even greater risk?

To be in the inaugural team, a foundation member and represent your State must be a lure for any Footballer.