Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11825

    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

    Originally posted by whythelongface
    Why? Cause he has been dropped? Gee if every player spat the dummy and wanted to go because they deem they are not getting a fair go, then you would have a hell of a players on the table seeking a request. He just needs to improve in certain areas to be a consistent performer to get a regular gig
    Everyone's favourite fringe player should always be seeking a trade for how unjustly they've been treated. This week it's Garcia and Busslinger, other times it's been Khamis or Cleary. Daniel and Macrae were persecuted earlier in the year.

    Not a lot of tears for McNeil though this year
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66082

      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Not a lot of tears for McNeil though this year
      GG has joined the conversation
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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9873

        Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

        McNeil's problem is that is worst stands out like dogs balls. We've got a guy like Bramble in the team who is hidden away, takes kick outs, hit's an easy target and statically looks OK. McNeil at the other end can't hide, doesn't get the easy 1 - 2 and everyone can see it. Neither should be on our list but here we are.

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18880

          Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

          Originally posted by bornadog
          GG has joined the conversation
          If someone has to make way for Weightman then im ok with it being McNeil.
          He's depth.

          Also wtf!?
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21577

            Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

            Originally posted by Uninformed
            I always really enjoy the sense of how the coach and assistants are able to see things the team need to do better to improve, and from that, what individuals need to learn to improve the team. To me Garcia seemed to be going well and brought some much needed pace, agility and hardness. But obviously there is much more to the game plan than an average punter like me is aware of.
            What would be really awesome would be to sit with the coaches and observe their behind the goal reviews of matches. Reckon you'd learn a lot about what's going on.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • Go_Dogs
              Hall of Fame
              • Jan 2007
              • 10110

              Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

              Originally posted by mjp
              Welcome back.

              I like Garcia but I guess what has he done over the past couple of weeks that we are gonna miss?

              I'm way too lazy to look stuff up but I'm pretty sure his tackling has dropped right away the last few weeks - he laid 5-6 in his first 3-4 games and lately it's been more like 1-2.

              I totally get the conversation around "it shoulda been Gallagher" etc but Garcia is still a young developing player and needs to be held accountable for his week-to-week performances. We need him playing on the edge, not playing on the edge of the contest.

              I wasn't impressed by him last week and whilst I'm surprised he's out I think it is unfair to say that Garcia being left out is a sign of the apocalypse.
              Agree. I think the stats inflate what I thought he did from an execution standpoint last week and he?s been not as good as he was when he first came back.

              We need to play to his strengths more too so I imagine it?s a bit frustrating, but ultimately you?re judged against the role you?re asked to play.
              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15319

                Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

                Originally posted by hujsh
                Everyone's favourite fringe player should always be seeking a trade for how unjustly they've been treated. This week it's Garcia and Busslinger, other times it's been Khamis or Cleary. Daniel and Macrae were persecuted earlier in the year.

                Not a lot of tears for McNeil though this year
                If you?re trying to compare how both McNeil and Garcia have performed this year you?re probably playing this game incorrectly.

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                • Scorlibo
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3073

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

                  Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                  Agree. I think the stats inflate what I thought he did from an execution standpoint last week and he?s been not as good as he was when he first came back.

                  We need to play to his strengths more too so I imagine it?s a bit frustrating, but ultimately you?re judged against the role you?re asked to play.
                  I'd challenge you to go and watch his extended highlights (every involvement) through the AFL app.

                  He made one clear error with ball in hand - kicking blindly around the corner on his left foot straight to Brisbane, under no pressure. Then while being tackled he's put one handball behind Treloar on the wing, and it's gone oob. Two holding the ball decisions, one he was stiff and the other a great tackle from McKenna. Gave away a free kick in a marking contest on the fifty - a bit stiff.

                  That's kind of it, otherwise he was clean enough and his contested work was brilliant. There's some quickfire handballs that probably went unnoticed in real time - eg. winning the contested ball inside fifty to set up Bont's banana goal.

                  I'm at peace with the idea that there's a whole bunch of positioning work and running patterns that the coaches are after, and we simply can't pick up on this part of the game. It's frustrating, but I accept it. However I can't accept that based on what we do see, and based on what we can measure, Garcia's performance against Brisbane was poor, or even sub-par.
                  'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10110

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

                    Originally posted by Scorlibo
                    I'd challenge you to go and watch his extended highlights (every involvement) through the AFL app.

                    He made one clear error with ball in hand - kicking blindly around the corner on his left foot straight to Brisbane, under no pressure. Then while being tackled he's put one handball behind Treloar on the wing, and it's gone oob. Two holding the ball decisions, one he was stiff and the other a great tackle from McKenna. Gave away a free kick in a marking contest on the fifty - a bit stiff.

                    That's kind of it, otherwise he was clean enough and his contested work was brilliant. There's some quickfire handballs that probably went unnoticed in real time - eg. winning the contested ball inside fifty to set up Bont's banana goal.

                    I'm at peace with the idea that there's a whole bunch of positioning work and running patterns that the coaches are after, and we simply can't pick up on this part of the game. It's frustrating, but I accept it. However I can't accept that based on what we do see, and based on what we can measure, Garcia's performance against Brisbane was poor, or even sub-par.
                    It’s a good challenge.

                    I haven’t watched any footage, and am commenting on what stood out to me in real time (and was sitting behind the goals in the players area) so didn’t get quite the sense I’d normally get from the wing.

                    I do like that he gets the ball and tries stuff, which does leave you more open to stuffing it up from time to time, and absolutely think he’s developing well and has a big future at AFL level. He’s got some work-ons too and that’s ok.

                    Let’s see how he responds and hopefully he’s back soon enough.
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11825

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 14 vs Fremantle Dockers

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      If you?re trying to compare how both McNeil and Garcia have performed this year you?re probably playing this game incorrectly.
                      Lol no one is doing that
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