The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

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  • josie
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2012
    • 4399

    #16
    Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

    I?m a Yes. Play the young ones so we can make informed decisions. It also keeps fans like me excited/interested in a season where I was and still am not expecting much (but always hoping for a miraculous turnaround in form).

    Regarding Bevo I agree with keeping him on until end of year unless he loses the players in meantime. If there is a miraculous turnaround including winning at least one final and also not having our pants pulled down like the 2021 GF then he should see out his contract.
    Josie :)

    Our day will come
    And we'll have everything.
    We'll share the joy
    Just like '54 again.

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    • josie
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2012
      • 4399

      #17
      Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

      And wishing you a speedy recovery GG.
      Josie :)

      Our day will come
      And we'll have everything.
      We'll share the joy
      Just like '54 again.

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      • whythelongface
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2007
        • 4381

        #18
        Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

        I like the idea of blooding youth with experience It is a fine line between having too many older heads who aren?t performing and too many young guys who, whilst talented, don?t yet have the footy smarts or body to compete. The last two weeks have been good. We need to continue down that path. There will be some bumps along the journey.

        The thread did take a u-turn with the discussion about Bevo retaining his job. I note some are suggesting retaining him till the end of this year but then what? If the Bevolution brings about change that sees incremental improvements throughout the year resulting in a finals berth then why not retain him longer and see how we perform next year. Clearly he hasn?t lost the playing group. In fact there appears to a rejuvenation and a steely determination to say up yours to the media establishment.

        GG - hope you get better soon

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        • Uninformed
          Draftee
          • Jan 2023
          • 789

          #19
          Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

          All in with the Bevolution.

          Like seeing new blood getting a shot. Youth and enthusiasm. (Although I could say that about recalling John Schultz the way I feel these days.)

          I remember Malthouse being criticised for dropping experienced players like Tarkyn Lockyer for youth the year they won it. But the kids did well.

          Bevo has turned over the list since arriving and he did the same for three premierships in a row at St. Bedes.

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          • Hotdog60
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 5843

            #20
            Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

            Hang in there GG I'm a Novid and I work in a hospital. It pays to be anti-social.
            Don't piss off old people
            The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18898

              #21
              Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

              Originally posted by Hotdog60
              Hang in there GG I'm a Novid and I work in a hospital. It pays to be anti-social.
              I actually got it helping someone who was really crook and needed a paramedic. I was the stay with guy.
              Otherwise the streak would have maintained!
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Uninformed
                Draftee
                • Jan 2023
                • 789

                #22
                Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                I actually got it helping someone who was really crook and needed a paramedic. I was the stay with guy.
                Otherwise the streak would have maintained!
                Get well GG!

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18898

                  #23
                  Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                  Sorry doc.

                  Ha doc, ironic.

                  Back on thread.

                  As BT said wouldn't mind seeing Buss play soon. Maybe JOD out for a rest.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • mighty_west
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3414

                    #24
                    Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                    Get well soon GG, i've had it a few times, the 30-36 hours is hell but i was cleaning the house from top to bottom on day 3 as i couldn't work, but it can linger for months where you have your normal feel fine days but also run down with NRG days too.

                    Have to go the Bevolution, things have looked stale for a few seasons so change not just in personal but positional changes was a must imo, before Ed Richards went in the guts i wanted him tried there on the back of one of Gary's training reports where Ed trained there and dominated, be interesting to see which coach or coaches came up with that trial idea because it will transform our stale midfield but also turn Ed into a more damaging player in years to come.

                    Liked the Naughton move up the ground on occasions too, even use Jamarra up field which will give us more marking targets further up the ground and clear out space for the other forwards at times, also continue to run whichever oppo key defender is dominating, and just keep changing it up.

                    Have to blood the kids, especially reward good form in the VFL, and whilst the club but especially Bevo has come under heavy scrutiny i don't mind the fact the Jacko or Caleb spent time in the VFL, if these players have lost some of their effectiveness in games then why not make them work their asses off to get back into the side, and i think the Sydney, Geelong or Pies model is the way to go, you don't want to bottom out and cut too much experience at once (look at North), those better cultured clubs don't bottom out they have a dip in form from time to time but get back just as quickly, to me it creates a winning and positive culture, i'll be staggered if the Pies retired off both Sidebottom and Pendles during the same off season for example.

                    The Suns and Giants (even though they made a GF) are living proof you don't have to have handfuls of top early picks to win Premierships if you don't have "quality" experience around them, it's also another reason priority picks is just an excuse for poorly managed teams to grab a freebie, it'll make no difference but that's another debate.

                    Keep playing the likes of Gags, Sanders will come back in at some stage, Freijah, Darcy is still a pup and has already gone past Lobb, Busslinger would be next cab etc, what we had wasn't working so it's a no brainer that these are changes that simply had to be made for now and for the future, because the now over the past few seasons have been mediocre.

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                    • Bullies
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 1807

                      #25
                      Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                      I like what Bevo is doing with both Sanders and Busslinger. Teaching Buss to defend and how to play on opponents. Should be ready to go when he comes in.

                      Sanders also learning the defensive side of his game before he comes back in. Would never had to defend during his junior years.

                      Can't be underestimated the value of seconds football. Everyone getting impatient with Sanders not playing but he will come back a better player. Just hope with the work we have put into Buss we can keep him.

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                      • Jasper
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1260

                        #26
                        Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                        I'm in the wait until the end of the season group. If we under deliver then lets consider our options.
                        Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66112

                          #27
                          Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                          You need to re read the OP

                          Originally posted by Jasper
                          I'm in the wait until the end of the season group. If we under deliver then lets consider our options.
                          Originally posted by azabob
                          The post is about changing up our players not a coaching change.
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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15321

                            #28
                            Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                            Originally posted by The Doctor
                            Here we are 10 rounds in and we are 5 wins and 5 losses. So much conjecture has happened about Luke Beveridge this year.

                            The talk has been about 'evolution' this year. Bevo has alluded to it when under pressure from the media for poor results. Our President has as well.

                            We have seen inexperienced players such as; Sanders, Gallagher, Darcy, Freijah, Garcia, Cleary, Khamis, O'Donnell get games ahead of Macrae, Daniel, Keath, Gardner, Dale and Lobb.

                            We have seen moves such as Richards to the midfield when most of us would have preferred him at half back. Then we have seen Bevo stuck with Vanders, West and recently Garcia as small forwards despite the obvious fact they are not natural small forwards. It is not Bevo's fault we haven't recruited small/medium forwards. Or is it?

                            Given our results of 22/23 what were we to do? Do we continue playing our regulars who failed to get us to finals or find new players and make a change?

                            So, how do you sit? Are you pro the Bevolution or anti the Bevolution?
                            It would help if you could name these players for me.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44297

                              #29
                              Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                              We've got the balance about right and I don't believe we should gift games. Perhaps that changes later in the season.
                              I'd rather we continue to put more games into the likes of Gallagher, Cleary, JOD, Sanders and Freijah that spreading the games or opportunities across a wider group.
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                              • SonofScray
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 4214

                                #30
                                Re: The Bevolution. Are you yes or no?

                                Pro Bevolution as presented here and also #sackbevo
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