If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

[Bornadog]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

With the players available, Eade has done a great job and should not be under pressure, in trouble as the thread asks. We have had a top four postion and playing at least two finals.

The structure of the team is completely wrong and I believe the club has been trying to address this with the drafting of Everitt, Grant, Boumann, Mulligan and at minimum next year Cordy and have been unlucky with Williams. It takes time to devlop these big guys.

Once again the trade and drafting will be vital for the success in the next few years.

[Dry Rot]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

With the players available, Eade has done a great job and should not be under pressure, in trouble as the thread asks. We have had a top four postion and playing at least two finals.

I suppose I'm asking not whether Eade should be under pressure but rather whether he will be. Dunno that the club's management was real happy with him at the end of last season NB Smorgon.

I suppose I'm also wondering if this comes down to politics and personalities, not reason and facts.

[LostDoggy]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

Leigh Matthews anyone? Teach the kids about hard tough footy

[GVGjr]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

I suppose I'm asking not whether Eade should be under pressure but rather whether he will be. Dunno that the club's management was real happy with him at the end of last season NB Smorgon.
I suppose I'm also wondering if this comes down to politics and personalities, not reason and facts.

Almost impossible for us to speculate on though. What the likes of Smorgon, Rose and Eade say in front of the media and what is happening behind the scenes could be two very different things but we aren't privy to it.
The Smorgon, Rose and Eade differences of opinions last year have all been sorted out so they shouldn't come into play.

My guess is that he has hit most if not all of the KPI's that the club would have put in place.

[LostDoggy]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

-Eagleton and West must retire
-Ray to be traded
-No Lovett style recruits. We need big strong hard running midfielders (in the draft).
-Ward,OKeefe etc etc have to be fast tracked next year. Even if it means Boyd plays back pocket and takes Tim Callans place.
-Grant,Everitt,Boumann and Williams need massive pre-seasons. We will make up the numbers until we get size in the forward line.
-Next year has to be Aker's,Welshs and maybe Johnson's last yr.
-Eade- i have been calling for him to be replaced for 3 yrs. I dont rate his unaccountable, basketball , run up and down the ground style. I think we need a fresh start.
-If we dont be careful and fast track more kids, we will be sitting here in 3yrs thinking Hargraves,Gilbee,Murphy,Lake,Gia,Morris,Hahn etc are past it.

Spot on Jerry
But I think you are being a little kind

After watching the crap that was served up last night I go on record and state the following

Rodney Eade - terminate his contact after the B&F
Scott West - retire with dignity.
Nahtan Eagleton - retire
Tim Callan - delist ( not up to afl level)
Scott Welsh - trade
Farren Ray - trade
Tom Williams - trade (15 games in four years)

The following players to be traded to secure a CHF and CHB
Adam Cooney
Mathew Boyd
Daniel Giansiracusa

and as Jerry stated fast track the kids instead of playing the old stagers
because we pay good money to watch them and should not settle for MEDIOCRITY

[Bornadog]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

Leigh Matthews anyone? Teach the kids about hard tough footy

No Thanks, bad communicator. The man to teach a young team is Mark Williams.

[The Pie Man]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

-Eagleton and West must retire
-Ray to be traded
-No Lovett style recruits. We need big strong hard running midfielders (in the draft).
-Ward,OKeefe etc etc have to be fast tracked next year. Even if it means Boyd plays back pocket and takes Tim Callans place.
-Grant,Everitt,Boumann and Williams need massive pre-seasons. We will make up the numbers until we get size in the forward line.
-Next year has to be Aker's,Welshs and maybe Johnson's last yr.
-Eade- i have been calling for him to be replaced for 3 yrs. I dont rate his unaccountable, basketball , run up and down the ground style. I think we need a fresh start.
-If we dont be careful and fast track more kids, we will be sitting here in 3yrs thinking Hargraves,Gilbee,Murphy,Lake,Gia,Morris,Hahn etc are past it.

I agree with most of the below, especially the pre-season's for those 4 kids.

Eade on the other hand has to be given more time, I'd rather be where we are now than 2004. Our contested footy was terrific early in the year, it's gone missing now sure, but is that Eade's fault?

I think Lovett could add value.

[hujsh]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

-Eagleton and West must retire
-Ray to be traded
-No Lovett style recruits. We need big strong hard running midfielders (in the draft).
-Ward,OKeefe etc etc have to be fast tracked next year. Even if it means Boyd plays back pocket and takes Tim Callans place.
-Grant,Everitt,Boumann and Williams need massive pre-seasons. We will make up the numbers until we get size in the forward line.
-Next year has to be Aker's,Welshs and maybe Johnson's last yr.
-Eade- i have been calling for him to be replaced for 3 yrs. I dont rate his unaccountable, basketball , run up and down the ground style. I think we need a fresh start.
-If we dont be careful and fast track more kids, we will be sitting here in 3yrs thinking Hargraves,Gilbee,Murphy,Lake,Gia,Morris,Hahn etc are past it.

Plan sounds similar to what Hawthorn did. You would trade those 7 above players to the GC for their picks?

[LostDoggy]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

because we pay good money to watch them and should not settle for MEDIOCRITY

Should have had a bet on this old pearler to come out. What a stupid saying.

[The Underdog]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

Spot on Jerry
But I think you are being a little kind

After watching the crap that was served up last night I go on record and state the following

Rodney Eade - terminate his contact after the B&F
Scott West - retire with dignity.
Nahtan Eagleton - retire
Tim Callan - delist ( not up to afl level)
Scott Welsh - trade
Farren Ray - trade
Tom Williams - trade (15 games in four years)

The following players to be traded to secure a CHF and CHB
Adam Cooney
Mathew Boyd
Daniel Giansiracusa

and as Jerry stated fast track the kids instead of playing the old stagers
because we pay good money to watch them and should not settle for MEDIOCRITY

Is this where metaphorical streamers and balloons drop from the ceiling and we all blow party whistles and pop party poppers to celebrate the use of the term mediocrity finally popping up in an unironic context.

A couple of points.
You want to trade for a CHB but trade Tom Williams to achieve that aim. I understand he is injured constantly but I think we're likely to get under the odds for him at this point and I think he's worth perservering with for another year. He has too much potential to throw away now. At least wait for GC to come knocking
You want to trade Cooney and get a CHF. Great thought but who's available and who the hell gets the ball to him when he shows up to save the day. Sure Cooney was rubbish last night but he's been clearly our no 1 midfielder all year, he is an elite talent who is just starting to flourish and we have nobody who can take his place and give us what he can. You'd be getting ripped off by Peter to pay Paul the interest on a loan then have him kick the crap out of you.
I agree we have to make some hard calls on guys like Eagleton and Ray and possibly try and trade Boydy while he has currency. Welsh would be a delist as noone would trade for him, but I think he'll get another year to be honest (He's contracted for it).

Eade has led us to finals 2 out of 4 years and we are in a much better position than we were 5 years ago despite the chicken littleness abounding. We aren't quite talented enough to win a premiership but why you would sack a coach who got you to 3rd on the ladder in the season is beyond me, especially with what he had available on the park last night.

[LostDoggy]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

I can't believe some of the stuff I am reading here

Eade has done an amazing job with a team that has no ff and only one kpp. The players are all introverts who withdraw when under pressure.

I rememer he said a couple of years ago, that the teams that win the Flag have been around the mark for a few years. Think Sydney, West Coast and Geelong (aside from 2006). We have made progress this year, we made the finals in 2006 won one and lost one, made top four this year, lost the first one - hopefully will win next week and play off again in a preliminary final. Next year I hope we will make further progressw.

Footscray has a history of sacking coaches - it has to stop and allow us some stability - I'm for Rocket!!!!

[Go_Dogs]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

-Eagleton and West must retire
-Ray to be traded
-No Lovett style recruits. We need big strong hard running midfielders (in the draft).
-Ward,OKeefe etc etc have to be fast tracked next year. Even if it means Boyd plays back pocket and takes Tim Callans place.
-Grant,Everitt,Boumann and Williams need massive pre-seasons. We will make up the numbers until we get size in the forward line.
-Next year has to be Aker's,Welshs and maybe Johnson's last yr.
-Eade- i have been calling for him to be replaced for 3 yrs. I dont rate his unaccountable, basketball , run up and down the ground style. I think we need a fresh start.
-If we dont be careful and fast track more kids, we will be sitting here in 3yrs thinking Hargraves,Gilbee,Murphy,Lake,Gia,Morris,Hahn etc are past it.

I tend to agree with everything you have said, except for moving on Eade. I still feel he in the best man for the job at this stage, and no one else who is available really gets me excited.

Everything else you have said is spot on.

I'd love a Shannon Hurn type this year in the draft.

[hujsh]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

Spot on Jerry
But I think you are being a little kind

After watching the crap that was served up last night I go on record and state the following

Rodney Eade - terminate his contact after the B&F
Scott West - retire with dignity.
Nahtan Eagleton - retire
Tim Callan - delist ( not up to afl level)
Scott Welsh - trade
Farren Ray - trade
Tom Williams - trade (15 games in four years)

The following players to be traded to secure a CHF and CHB
Adam Cooney
Mathew Boyd
Daniel Giansiracusa

and as Jerry stated fast track the kids instead of playing the old stagers
because we pay good money to watch them and should not settle for MEDIOCRITY

And we come dead last lose many members and pick 4 for our efforts

[gohardorgohome]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

Can those who have made the "Sack Eade" comments after last nights performance please state exactly what he did incorrect tactically last night.

I personally felt that Harbrow should have tagged Rioli, Aker is a forward an part time midfielder at stoppages once the game as been going for a while. Other than that I felt our players let themselves down rather than the coach.

The Hawks won the contested ball in the midfield and also in our forward line. This caused our guys to poorly execute skills with percieved pressure. Hodge and some of the Hawthorn tall defenders took marks when we played to long kicks to the hot spot. We have no top class key forward, so this mean our only option was to do the old chip kicks tactic.

[Mantis]

Re: If we lose next week, is Eade in trouble?

Can those who have made the "Sack Eade" comments after last nights performance please state exactly what he did incorrect tactically last night.

I personally felt that Harbrow should have tagged Rioli, Aker is a forward an part time midfielder at stoppages once the game as been going for a while. Other than that I felt our players let themselves down rather than the coach.

Harbrow is a forward, not a defender. We did not pick a team that contained enough defender's. Our game plan was to play offensive football, we couldn't get our hands on the ball and therefore we didn't have the cattle down back to compete.