Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 15116

    #31
    Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

    Originally posted by Sedat
    He's actually been in terrible form all season. I think Bobby Hill broke him in last year's GF - up till then he was a gun small defender.
    Form against the club that once let John Butcher kick six goals against them isn't a huge indicator of likely performance.
    Majak "5 goals" Daw would agree too
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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11602

      #32
      Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

      Originally posted by Mofra
      Form against the club that once let John Butcher kick six goals against them isn't a huge indicator of likely performance.
      Majak "5 goals" Daw would agree too
      So does Marty McGrath, Eddie Sainsbury, Luke Vogels, Nigel Fiegert, etc...

      Starcevich really has been quite shithouse all season. Maybe we can do a reverse of the afore-mentioned nondescript names and 'McNeil' him tonight.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 22150

        #33
        Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

        Originally posted by Sedat
        So does Marty McGrath, Eddie Sainsbury, Luke Vogels, Nigel Fiegert, etc...

        Starcevich really has been quite shithouse all season. Maybe we can do a reverse of the afore-mentioned nondescript names and 'McNeil' him tonight.
        Or Jason Tutt him.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • The Pie Man
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2008
          • 3505

          #34
          Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

          We looked badly gassed from level 3, even when we did win possession the Lions defended the ground very well.

          I just don’t like idea that we’ve been ‘up’ for a while so we’re due a dip. It’s excuses, it’s weak. It’s this group / this club all over.
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          • Testekill
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 2327

            #35
            Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

            We have made Hipwood look like Carey in his prime

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #36
              Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

              Originally posted by mjp
              I'm hoping I'm wrong but I can't see it.

              We've been 'UP' since the Bombers game...and if you are an 'expected score' true believer (expected score says we should have beaten the bombers but for their incredible accuracy and our poor kicking at goal) you'd probably say we'd been up since the Melbourne game.

              We've kind of reached 'breaking point' with injuries in our front half - we need to SCORE to beat the Lions.

              Brisbane JUST had a week off...and are pretty healthy. The players they have lost are basically NOT coming back (a cluster of ACL's).

              We haven't had a bye yet (somehow Sydney have had two, somehow BRISBANE have had two!) and the players have got to be feeling it and looking forward to the week off.

              Given our forward line personnel issues we would need to win this 9-goals to 8 or something...I just can't see how we restrict Brisbane to that given the players they have available:

              Morris and Lohman kick one between them.
              Bailey gets one.
              Ah Chee gets one.
              Cameron gets two-three.
              Daniher gets two-three.
              Neale/Dunkley/McCluggage get one between them.

              That's 8 - BEST CASE scenario...How do we get to 10? How do we score enough to win this??

              West gets 1.
              Bont gets 1.
              Treloar and Macrae get 1 between them.
              English gets 1.
              JUH gets 2.
              Lobb gets 1.

              Garcia maybe 1??

              Geez. I'm just not seeing it!!!
              No Hipwood with six I see.
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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7474

                #37
                Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                No Hipwood with six I see.
                Right.

                We just played like a team that needed a week off though...
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10251

                  #38
                  Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

                  We got beaten up all over the ground.

                  Goal kicking is going to be a struggle until we get our forward line back. We need to continue to get goals from our midfield and particularly Bont. Richard’s coming back in will help us as it gives us some more options. I also wouldn’t mind trying Treloar off half back if we can play Dale forward for a few weeks. I know he’s been great and it’s disruptive to our back 7, but we just need a natural forward and Dale is one of the best on our list.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7474

                    #39
                    Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

                    Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                    We got beaten up all over the ground.

                    Goal kicking is going to be a struggle until we get our forward line back. We need to continue to get goals from our midfield and particularly Bont. Richard’s coming back in will help us as it gives us some more options. I also wouldn’t mind trying Treloar off half back if we can play Dale forward for a few weeks. I know he’s been great and it’s disruptive to our back 7, but we just need a natural forward and Dale is one of the best on our list.
                    I get it but to be our best 'US' we need to make sure our best players are in their best spots.

                    I feel better about our chances vs Freo - even though two weeks in a row against teams coming off a bye seems pretty unfair to me!! - just because we had been 'UP' for so long (with Collingwood the crescendo) that a win vs Brisbane seemed basically impossible...with the drop away yesterday, we review, refresh and hit it again...throwing the magnets into the air and seeing where they land doesn't seem like a solution. Consistent, honest footy and our best players - Dale and Treloar amongst them - in their best spots.
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • kruder
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2011
                      • 3912

                      #40
                      Re: Can someone explain to me how we beat Brisbane?

                      Great call MJP just saw this thread! To the eye we were just so slow, lethargic is the word I was looking for. I read a few comments in the game day thread on how slow Freijah looked, worth noting his stats last week against the pies...


                      15.3km covered - Equal 2nd on the ground
                      2.5km at high speed - 5th
                      8.6kmph average offensive speed - 4th
                      8.9kmph avrage defensive speed - 3rd

                      As many have said we are now paying for not getting runs on the board early when we had a healthy list.

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