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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44661

    The search for the next captain?

    Who would be your recommendation to captain the side in 2010 providing Johnson hands it over?

    Why do you think your selection is the best candidate?
    36
    Daniel Cross
    33.33%
    12
    Matthew Boyd
    5.56%
    2
    Robert Murphy
    13.89%
    5
    Daniel Giansiracusa
    27.78%
    10
    Adam Cooney
    5.56%
    2
    Ryan Griffen
    2.78%
    1
    Lindsay Gilbee
    2.78%
    1
    Will Minson
    2.78%
    1
    Brian Lake
    2.78%
    1
    Dale Morris
    11.11%
    4

    The poll is expired.

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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11842

    #2
    Re: The search for the next captain?

    This time again? Most common pole on a footy site. But i guess it's relevant with Johnno's comments.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44661

      #3
      Re: The search for the next captain?

      Originally posted by hujsh
      This time again? Most common pole on a footy site. But i guess it's relevant with Johnno's comments.

      Yes there has been an article and a bit of discussion so it will be interesting to see who bobs up as the next captain in waiting.
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      • wimberga
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 851

        #4
        Re: The search for the next captain?

        Quite surprised Higgins wasnt an option here GVG?

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        • BulldogBelle
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 5284

          #5
          Re: The search for the next captain?

          Daniel Cross is my choice, his work ethic is amazing and would inspire the others along. In saying that Gia is a close second he is very much respected amongst the group and would also be a good leader.

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11246

            #6
            Re: The search for the next captain?

            Gia for mine at this stage.

            But come 2010, Higgins or Griffen might be ready. Doubtful, but who knows, a year's a long time in footy.

            Gia fits the bill; he has great leadership qualities, the players by all reports really listen to what he has to say, and his performances on the field have been extremely good. 07 was a little disappointing, but his 05/06/08 seasons have been really impressive. Murph is a decent chance too, but he may be a little bit too laid back - so I'd probably pick Gia at a guess.

            Hoping Higgins/Griff make a strive for the Captaincy soon though.
            W00F!

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: The search for the next captain?

              Boyd for mine just think he would make a good strong leader.

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              • Scraggers
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jun 2008
                • 3565

                #8
                Re: The search for the next captain?

                Bobbie Murphy for me ... a better football brain you will never see; the man oozes quality both on and off the field

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: The search for the next captain?

                  Originally posted by muttley3028
                  Boyd for mine just think he would make a good strong leader.
                  Same. He's so strong and for a bloke with not a great deal of natural talent (when you compare him to Coon, Griff, Smurf etc) he's a go-getter and stands up tall when he's needed. I would be MOST upset if it was to go to Gia. I just think he is plain soft.

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                  • Desipura
                    WOOF Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4344

                    #10
                    Re: The search for the next captain?

                    Originally posted by M.R.M
                    Same. He's so strong and for a bloke with not a great deal of natural talent (when you compare him to Coon, Griff, Smurf etc) he's a go-getter and stands up tall when he's needed. I would be MOST upset if it was to go to Gia. I just think he is plain soft.
                    Welcome MRM, I think your comments above are more suited to another forum. We generally do not just criticise a player for the sake of it. You will find people here will pay more attention if you give reasons for critising a particular player.
                    Dont know if this is your first post, however its not one of the better first posts that I have read.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: The search for the next captain?

                      Griff is the only player on that list apart from Cooney who is able to grab a game with both hands and wrest control of it, shaping it with sheer will, but he also seems the more intentional player, taking the game on at every opportunity.

                      I say take a leaf out of South Africa's book and promote our next captain young. It's not as if he won't have the respect of the dressing room.

                      Alternate choice would be Crossy just for the example he sets, but not sure he has the same game-day influence as some of the more explosive players.

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                      • Cyberdoggie
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2859

                        #12
                        Re: The search for the next captain?

                        I think you need to consider several things when choosing a captain.

                        it's just about who's the best player on your list.
                        Sometimes the best player can be the worst leader.

                        You need to consider that person's leadership abilities:

                        * Communication skills: how they talk to the media and players
                        * Inspirational/corageous: needs to inspire other players around them
                        * Marketability: someone you can sell your club on
                        * Respect amongst the players: If the players don't like you or don't respect you then your not captain material.
                        * Determination/willingness to succeed: Someone who can put in the hard work required on and off the field, someone who lives and breathes footy and wants nothing more than a premiership for the WB's.

                        basically you need someone who can talk, someone who a consistent and inspirational player on the field, and someone who commands the respect of the playing group.

                        I don't think we have any clear standouts in all categories.
                        It's very hard to judge from outside the club just how each player sits in the group. We supporters may think a particular player is a great choice but we don't see them off the field. We don't see how they fit in the group and if the younger players look up to them. Or if they are a loner and stick to themselves and don't have many friends?.

                        Here's my review on the main contenders.

                        Murphy:
                        *communication skills: 9
                        *I/C: 8
                        *Marketability: 10
                        * Respect: 7
                        *Determination: 10

                        Total 44

                        *Bob Murphy can talk, we've all read his articles etc but is he seen as a bit of an alternative type or a joker amongst the group?. He's got the determination and club wouldn't have a problem using him as their poster boy. Bob does try his heart out on the field although injuries have slowed him down a little.

                        Gia:
                        *communication skills: 5
                        *I/C: 5
                        *Marketability: 7
                        * Respect: 9
                        *Determination: 8
                        total: 34

                        *Gia to me isn't much of a talker and i couldn't see him offering anything in leadership on the field. He does try at times but he often misses crucial set shots and his tackles get broken easily. Seems like a nice guy and no doubt loves his footy. Not captain material for me.

                        Cooney:
                        *communication skills: 7
                        *I/C: 7
                        *Marketability: 10
                        * Respect: 8
                        *Determination: 7

                        total: 39

                        *Cooney is a brownlow medallist now and everyone knows who he is. However much like Murphy i have doubts that he is mature enough to be a leader. Seems to like being the quiet clown of the group.

                        Cross:
                        *communication skills: 6
                        *I/C: 10
                        *Marketability: 8
                        * Respect: 9
                        *Determination: 10

                        total:43

                        *Crossy is as gutsy as, a true inspiration on the field. His biggest weakness is that he's a bit of a quiet type.

                        Boyd:
                        *communication skills: 8
                        *I/C: 10
                        *Marketability: 7
                        * Respect: 9
                        *Determination: 10

                        total: 44

                        A real contender. I've heard him speak at many functions and although he is quieter than some others he can hold his own. Along with Cross he's an inspiration on the field. Not really a household name outside of the club.

                        Gilbee:
                        *communication skills: 10
                        *I/C: 8
                        *Marketability: 8
                        * Respect: 7
                        *Determination: 8

                        total: 41

                        * Gilbee is an excellent speaker, easily the best in the playing group. He's sharp and looks you in the eye when he answers your questions. If you've heard the interview with Mark Doran on SEN then you will know what i mean. He's not as corageous as some but still and inspirational player. Some doubts over his standing in the group. Doesn't get mentioned often as a contender along with gia or murphy despite being in the same age group and being a much better speaker.

                        Morris:
                        *communication skills: 5
                        *I/C: 10
                        *Marketability: 7
                        * Respect: 9
                        *Determination: 10

                        *total: 41

                        * Only weakness is that i think he may actually be a mute. Haven't heard him speak much so can't give him high marks here.

                        I welcome any input from fellow posters, some of you may know better than i do in regards to certain players, or have a different opinion.

                        For my vote i picked Gilbs, however i haven't rated him the highest. There are some unknowns for Lindsay for me, I've heard him speak a number of times but i can't work out how he is not in the leadership group, and others who can't string 2 words together are. Perhaps there is something about him that we are not aware of.
                        Boyd would be my second choice. I'd really like our captain to be someone who leads by example. Throwing your body in and busting your gut even when you are getting thrashed is what captains are supposed to do.

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #13
                          Re: The search for the next captain?

                          Originally posted by Desipura
                          Welcome MRM, I think your comments above are more suited to another forum. We generally do not just criticise a player for the sake of it. You will find people here will pay more attention if you give reasons for critising a particular player.
                          Dont know if this is your first post, however its not one of the better first posts that I have read.
                          It's also utter bullshit

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6522

                            #14
                            Re: The search for the next captain?

                            Morris for me, sure he wouldnt be the most marketable or be the most vocal but in a captain i look for a reliable type who will do it on the field. The talk in the dressing rooms is all fine but is pointless if they dont perform on the field.

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                            • Desipura
                              WOOF Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4344

                              #15
                              Re: The search for the next captain?

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              It's also utter bullshit
                              very eloquently put SS. "You can take the boy out of the West"..............you know the rest

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