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  • The Bulldogs Bite
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    • Dec 2006
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    NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

    Firstly, good effort by both clubs to play for such a great cause, raising plenty of money. Definitely both need to be congratulated, as well as the AFL. It was a great night and a close entertaining game would have served as a slight distraction for those suffering, even if only for a few hours.

    Now the game.

    * Foot skills were very poor, but it's early in the season. Still, we need to be working hard on this area as we lacked in our execution and perhaps most importantly, our decision making. Too many times going forward we picked the wrong option. Pretty frustrating, even if it's a NAB Cup - but we'll improve.

    * The senior players were a little disappointing. Johnson was great in the last but down a little in the three quarters prior. Still he stepped up when needed. Eagleton, Skipper & Wight were continually frustrating. Eagle did some nice things in the last but really, he justified why his spot in the 22 is under fierce pressure. Wight/Skip struggled and are no good. Gilbee's disposal was ordinary and Gia/Boyd ditto. Lake struggled a bit too, but the majority of these guys are obvious quality players who will perform in the real thing - we hope and have come to expect.

    * Grant was very impressive in his first display. He wasn't matched on by duds either. Took some strong grabs, showed fantastic defensive pressure every time, showed some serious pace and really gets involved in a contest on the ground, scooping the ball out several times. His ability to win a contest both in the air and on the ground is extremely pleasing. He WILL be a gun KPF - so long as he fixes his kicking, which really needs work. An awkward approach, too much room for nerves and ultimately error. If he can improve this he's going to be a seriously good player, and based on tonight, him playing 10+ games is certainly within reach. He positions his body well and has that "know how", even though he's an inexperienced kid.

    * Wood showed some solid signs of being able to develop into a good player. He has terrific size and uses it. Not afraid to get in and get the ball out. He used his body to get shrug tackles a few times really well. He has an instinctive ability to bust through packs, take them on, bounce the ball and run hard. His decision making was average but he did hit up a nice long 50m target in the last quarter. IMO he showed plenty to work with and he could be a real smokey to impress this year. Definitely will make his debut in 09 for mine, going to be keeping a close eye on this kid.

    * Harbrow is eager and full of heart. Hates losing a contest and gives 110% every single time. He looks a lot fitter and is moving really well. Looks exceptionally quick and his hunger to win the ball really shows through. He wins contests on sheer desire, he also manages to slip out of tackles or at least fire a handball away too. He looks the goods, in for a big year. Made some errors skill wise IE the shot for goal, but who didn't? Most of his passes were pretty good.

    * Higgins looked impressive for three quarters. Much cleaner in the midfield due to being clearly much fitter. Moving across the ground very well, he looks really classy and prior to the last quarter he proved this when some silky skills. Really looking forward to this year, he looks set.

    * Stack showed a few signs, moved well and kicked a nice goal, seems to have a nice gauge on controlling the ball, but I think he lacks a bit of intensity IE. instead of working the ball in his favour, grab it strongly with two hands. Not sold on his ability to play at this level yet. He has some talent but he doesn't seem to use it enough. Not sure if it's a confidence thing, a fitness thing, or what. But he probably needs to intensify his game to improve for mine. Still - some decent signs considering it was his first game.

    I'll probably write more later as it comes to mind. Overall not a great night for us, lot to work on over the coming weeks, but kinda to be expected. Some nice signs with a few of the kids and a few of the developing players though.
    W00F!
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44679

    #2
    Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

    I was pleased with the outings of a number of the youngsters particularly Wood, Grant, Ward and Hill (yes I still class him as a youngster) but that was countered by O'Shea who still hasn't made the progress he should have and to some extent Harbrow frustrated me tonight.
    I agree with Bulldogs Bite that Harbrow is full of heart and courage but his skill level and decision making is still too erratic. Plenty to work with though because he very much puts his head over the football and goes full paced.
    O'Shea showed all the signs of the player I saw at Williamstown. Gave away a silly free and 50mtrs penalty with an overly vigorous attempt at a contest which cost us 9 points and then with a set shot from 40mtrs out failed to make the distance and in fact probably kicked it no more than 30mtrs.

    Some of the other youngsters like Picken and Stack it was hard to judge them on this outing.

    It was encouraging to see Giansiracusa out there but he did provide a couple of costly clangers but will be better for the run.
    Lake didn't perform that well and hopefully this is game was about getting him back into some form and fitness. Higgins had a good game and should be primed for a solid season.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15449

      #3
      Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite

      I'll probably write more later as it comes to mind. Overall not a great night for us, lot to work on over the coming weeks, but kinda to be expected. Some nice signs with a few of the kids and a few of the developing players though.
      I really don't agree with this.

      The player's we thought would let us down did. ie. Wight, Skip, Eagle

      The youngster's we thought would show a bit did. ie. Grant, Wood, Ward

      The player's who we thought would show improvement did. ie. Addison, Harbrow, Higgins.

      We had some serious quality sitting in the stands tonight and I walked away thinking that we are in for another exciting year.

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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6522

        #4
        Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I was pleased with the outings of a number of the youngsters particularly Wood, Grant, Ward and Hill (yes I still class him as a youngster) but that was countered by O'Shea who still hasn't made the progress he should have and to some extent Harbrow frustrated me tonight.
        I agree with Bulldogs Bite that Harbrow is full of heart and courage but his skill level and decision making is still too erratic. Plenty to work with though because he very much puts his head over the football and goes full paced.
        O'Shea showed all the signs of the player I saw at Williamstown. Gave away a silly free and 50mtrs penalty with an overly vigorous attempt at a contest which cost us 9 points and then with a set shot from 40mtrs out failed to make the distance and in fact probably kicked it no more than 30mtrs.

        Some of the other youngsters like Picken and Stack it was hard to judge them on this outing.

        It was encouraging to see Giansiracusa out there but he did provide a couple of costly clangers but will be better for the run.
        Lake didn't perform that well and hopefully this is game was about getting him back into some form and fitness. Higgins had a good game and should be primed for a solid season.
        I think the problem with Harbrow is he tries to do to much instead of giving the first option.

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        • The Bulldogs Bite
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          • Dec 2006
          • 11246

          #5
          Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

          Originally posted by Mantis
          I really don't agree with this.

          The player's we thought would let us down did. ie. Wight, Skip, Eagle

          The youngster's we thought would show a bit did. ie. Grant, Wood, Ward

          The player's who we thought would show improvement did. ie. Addison, Harbrow, Higgins.

          We had some serious quality sitting in the stands tonight and I walked away thinking that we are in for another exciting year.
          You're quite right. I think by 'not a great night' I meant the result and the fact that Wight/Skip/Eagle coupled with some average ball useage was disappointing.

          But I definitely agree with all of your above.
          W00F!

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
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            • Dec 2006
            • 11246

            #6
            Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

            Addison and Callan both looked sharp tonight. For two players who haven't the most skill in the side, they work within their limitations very well. Particularly Callan - he knows his limits with his ball useage. Both should have good years IMO.

            Addison's skill level has actually improved and he looked sharp tonight. Won a few hard contests, his tackling is bone crunching and he looks fit.

            Excited about both of these players prospects this season, they add something different but very valuable.

            Addison took a hell of a saving mark in the last qtr too.
            W00F!

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            • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 8964

              #7
              Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I was pleased with the outings of a number of the youngsters particularly Wood, Grant, Ward and Hill (yes I still class him as a youngster) but that was countered by O'Shea who still hasn't made the progress he should have and to some extent Harbrow frustrated me tonight.
              I agree with Bulldogs Bite that Harbrow is full of heart and courage but his skill level and decision making is still too erratic. Plenty to work with though because he very much puts his head over the football and goes full paced.
              O'Shea showed all the signs of the player I saw at Williamstown. Gave away a silly free and 50mtrs penalty with an overly vigorous attempt at a contest which cost us 9 points and then with a set shot from 40mtrs out failed to make the distance and in fact probably kicked it no more than 30mtrs.

              Some of the other youngsters like Picken and Stack it was hard to judge them on this outing.

              It was encouraging to see Giansiracusa out there but he did provide a couple of costly clangers but will be better for the run.
              Lake didn't perform that well and hopefully this is game was about getting him back into some form and fitness. Higgins had a good game and should be primed for a solid season.
              O'Shea certainly has a long way to go. Can't fault his desire, but his skills look below standard.
              Picken is going to have to work hard this year, and not unlike guys like Morris and Boyd did, really do all he can to extract the best out of the abilities he has. Looks like he needs to really improve his skill level alot.
              I sort of agree with you on Harbrow, he does need to improve, but it's still early days for him and there is so much to like about his game. If he can just polish his game a bit, he can be an elite player.
              Cal Ward though is the one whom I'm most excited about, he just looks like a Rolls Royce in the making.
              Grant has great hands and awareness, but his set shot kicking doesn't inspire me with confidence. If this can't be rectified then we may have to look at using him elsewhere around the ground.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44679

                #8
                Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                Originally posted by lemmon
                I think the problem with Harbrow is he tries to do to much instead of giving the first option.
                And that comes right down to his decision making. He even throws his own team mates off because he will turn into another direction when the first option was already a good one. By the time he tries to go back to the first option the opposition have closed the gap and then his skill level is being tested. I know he has a legion of supporters here but in my opinion he needs become more far decisive and direct.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #9
                  Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                  Not bothered anymore with these games,we went in with a full squad last season against them and got poleaxed. Glad we played a host of kids

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #10
                    Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    I really don't agree with this.

                    The player's we thought would let us down did. ie. Wight, Skip, Eagle

                    The youngster's we thought would show a bit did. ie. Grant, Wood, Ward

                    The player's who we thought would show improvement did. ie. Addison, Harbrow, Higgins.

                    We had some serious quality sitting in the stands tonight and I walked away thinking that we are in for another exciting year.
                    i Agree,very disappointed with O'shea he just hasn't stepped up. I reckon if we can hold our ground in the eight and look forward to the likes of Grant,Boumann stepping up in the next year or two.

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9876

                      #11
                      Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                      Originally posted by Remi Moses
                      i Agree,very disappointed with O'shea he just hasn't stepped up. I reckon if we can hold our ground in the eight and look forward to the likes of Grant,Boumann stepping up in the next year or two.
                      First game I believe and 19 years of age I think you're expecting a bit much. I thought he did some nice things. His shot at goal was one to forget though and I'm sure it is one he would like to take again.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44679

                        #12
                        Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        First game I believe and 19 years of age I think you're expecting a bit much. I thought he did some nice things. His shot at goal was one to forget though and I'm sure it is one he would like to take again.
                        The problem is that based on what I have seen at Williamstown, he could have had several more shots and the outcome might not get any better. He is a far better kick when he really kicks through it. In my opinion he often seems to treat goal kicking like a golf put because he tries to kick it just hard enough but not too hard. In the end, falling 10 or 15mtrs short from a set shot from 40mtrs happens all too frequently for him which is a shame because his around the ground kicking isn't too bad.

                        As you say he is still just 19 but he does need to make a lot of improvement this year.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9876

                          #13
                          Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          The problem is that based on what I have seen at Williamstown, he could have had several more shots and the outcome might not get any better. He is a far better kick when he really kicks through it. In my opinion he often seems to treat goal kicking like a golf put because he tries to kick it just hard enough but not too hard. In the end, falling 10 or 15mtrs short from a set shot from 40mtrs happens all too frequently for him which is a shame because his around the ground kicking isn't too bad.

                          As you say he is still just 19 but he does need to make a lot of improvement this year.
                          Thanks for the insight. I don't think I've ever seen him play at all.

                          I liked his attack on the ball when he was on the ground he looked really hard at it so did Grant which I love seeing out of young kids. When he gave that 50 M penalty away he made up a hell of a lot of ground to make the contest when most players would have given up the end result of that hurt us with a 9 pointer but it was still a good sign.

                          Mcphee firing up after that showed just want a tool he is! The guy is finished and is using his rough hero tactics to keep his spot in the side. Solomon V2.

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                          • gohardorgohome
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 358

                            #14
                            Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                            Higgins is a mighty fine player.

                            Skillful courageous and has spoken well when I have heard him in the media.

                            I'd make him captain when Johnno calls it a day.

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                            • Missing-Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3102

                              #15
                              Re: NAB Dogs v Dons Match Overview

                              Very encouraging from the youngsters in Grant, Ward, Harbrow, Wood and DFA. Wight, Skipper and Eagleton did enough for me to suggest that they will be solid contributors for Williamstown this year.

                              I am fast becoming a huge Harbrow fan. I agree with the comments here about his decision making, but I put that down to youthful exuberance and a desire to please. He has made it to this level the hard way and I think he has placed a massive amount of pressure on himself to succeed in recognition for the sacrifices his family has made for him. With experience and a belief that he belongs at this level, I have no doubt we will see a great deal of improvement in his football.

                              Add Cooney, Griff, Hahn, Williams, Aker and Murph to last nights squad and we have a serious footy team folks.

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