On the Couch - Fox Sports

[mighty_west]

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Don't mind Hird,the other half has done some business with gemba and relayed to me that he is quite a nice fella.As for Sheehan how is it possible that a team after 22 rounds is ''flattered'' by finishing third. Then the big suck job last night.Time for another fluff Wayne Carey piece Mike.

Well in all honesty, the way we played most of the second half of the season, and the first final against the Hawks, did we play like a 3rd placed team?

The Swans Final & Prelim suggested we wearn't far away, but i'm guessing Mike was judging most of our second half of 2008.

[Remi Moses]

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Agree to a point 24/7 but to say the third position flattered us is totally rediculous. I also reckon we're a better side than Port.How is it possible after spending the whole season 1,2 or 3 that our final position flattered us. I reckon Thomas just takes the piss out of us knowing he'll get a reactionon SEN.

[Remi Moses]

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Well in all honesty, the way we played most of the second half of the season, and the first final against the Hawks, did we play like a 3rd placed team?

The Swans Final & Prelim suggested we wearn't far away, but i'm guessing Mike was judging most of our second half of 2008.

Good point but who was better? The second half of the season was disappointing.

[The Pie Man]

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I get the felling from a number of Bulldogs supporters that if anyone from the media bags us then they are stupid and no good at their job. I know others have mentioned this but if I was Grant Thomas I would never have rated the Doggies that highly either.
Hirds entitled to his opinion as is Thomas and Caro. I don't agree with them but they are just doing their job.

I thought getting someone like Hird who is not long out of the game was a good call for the show, and he's well spoken/presented - though the way he hmmm'd every 4 seconds when listening to Malthouse speak got on my nerves. Just ask the question and shutup James.

Regarding negative views on us, well we can only keep winning and playing well. If we do keep winning, I'd rather fly under the radar anyway.

[Missing Dog]

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Well in all honesty, the way we played most of the second half of the season, and the first final against the Hawks, did we play like a 3rd placed team?

The Swans Final & Prelim suggested we wearn't far away, but i'm guessing Mike was judging most of our second half of 2008.

So who did deserve to finish 3rd.

Of the 3 teams below us on the ladder, not one of them beat us during the year. We beat the Swans 3 times, St Kilda twice and Collingwood the only time we played them.

In relation to the 2nd half of the season, we played with nothing to win or lose. We were third, couldn't go any higher, couldn't go any lower.

Your ladder position is based on 22 rounds, not just the 2nd half of a season.

[Bornadog]

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I get the felling from a number of Bulldogs supporters that if anyone from the media bags us then they are stupid and no good at their job. I know others have mentioned this but if I was Grant Thomas I would never have rated the Doggies that highly either.
Hirds entitled to his opinion as is Thomas and Caro. I don't agree with them but they are just doing their job.

No, bulldog supporters are sick and tired of not getting any positive commentary, all we hear about how great the Collingwoods, Carltons, Hawthorns, Geelongs are. If we win its because other teams were bad, if we lose then its because we aren''t good enough. Happy to take criticism but how about some praise as well.

[GVGjr]

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No, bulldog supporters are sick and tired of not getting any positive commentary, all we hear about how great the Collingwoods, Carltons, Hawthorns, Geelongs are. If we win its because other teams were bad, if we lose then its because we aren''t good enough. Happy to take criticism but how about some praise as well.

Not sure that I agree with this BAD. How many commentators picked us to finish high up last year? From memory it was the vast majority and in the end we proved them right.
Did Caroline Wilson pick us as the minor premiers? Every time that she or Thomas have a crack at us they get knocked down. Sometimes that is deserved and occasionally it isn't.

Hawthorn and Geelong deserve to get the focus ahead of us and Carlton will get a lot this year because they are on the rise. Most in the media tip us as being a top 4 side but obviously it won't be everyone.

From a media perspective I don't think we are hard done by.

Seriously we are acting like we are victims when in fact we control a lot of our own destiny for media reporting.

Just because we don't get ongoing endorsements from everyone in the media it doesn't mean the poor old Dogs are being treated poorly.

[azabob]

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Not sure that I agree with this BAD. How many commentators picked us to finish high up last year? From memory it was the vast majority and in the end we proved them right.
Did Caroline Wilson pick us as the minor premiers? Every time that she or Thomas have a crack at us they get knocked down. Sometimes that is deserved and occasionally it isn't.

Hawthorn and Geelong deserve to get the focus ahead of us and Carlton will get a lot this year because they are on the rise. Most in the media tip us as being a top 4 side but obviously it won't be everyone.

From a media perspective I don't think we are hard done by.

Seriously we are acting like we are victims when in fact we control a lot of our own destiny for media reporting.

Just because we don't get ongoing endorsements from everyone in the media it doesn't mean the poor old Dogs are being treated poorly.

Totally agree with everything you have said GVGjr.
For some reason some people on this forum love digging the boots into Caroline Wilson. I would think she has written more positive articles on us this season than not.
And yes Caroline Wilson did pick us for minor premiers, even though Im sure that was a rhetorical question!!

[GVGjr]

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Totally agree with everything you have said GVGjr.
For some reason some people on this forum love digging the boots into Caroline Wilson. I would think she has written more positive articles on us this season than not.
And yes Caroline Wilson did pick us for minor premiers, even though Im sure that was a rhetorical question!!

Some of the media annoy me but I know they have a job to challenge the status quo and that means that we will occasionally cop a bad review or two but overall I think we do OK.
We can certainly challenge the competency of some of the journos but I do believe that some get over sensitive when someone doesn't rate us highly.
Didn't old footy coaches used to tell the players if the crowd was getting stuck into them "If you are in front, point to the scoreboard but if you are behind cop it sweet".
It's a bit early in the season to be calling any journo useless if they don't rate us that highly but there will be plenty of time during the season to remind them of the their errors.

I'm more concerned at the lack of effort by our own supporters in signing up for memberships and in my opinion the majority of them are the ones that don't rate us highly enough.

[hujsh]

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I'm more concerned at the lack of effort by our own supporters in signing up for memberships and in my opinion the majority of them are the ones that don't rate us highly enough.

Maybe they value the opinion of the papers too much?

[GVGjr]

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Maybe they value the opinion of the papers too much?

The ones that have been talking us up? I can't find any negative ones about us that would give any of our supporters good reason not to join up.

[LostDoggy]

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Just watched this, had it recorded..

Hird gave us absolutely nothing.

Healy asked him whether he rates us up there as a third best team 'Yeah they are better than Sydney & St Kilda but Port Adelaide...are a good side' You numnut. Yeah i think theyll go alright this year..but look at last year? We came 3rd they came what..11th? How can you praise them but not mention how much of a good side we currently are?

Never had a bad opinion towards him but in that show he just seems like a numbskull and im looking forward to his comments throughout the year if we do become a top 3 club again. He just sat there with a frown and nothing to say when Mike was praising Lake and talking about Griffin making that a tribute to his dad..maybe he thinks he is better than our whole side or something, he may aswell of said we were one of the worst clubs in the AFL, at least then he would of talked about us

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Does anyone think Hird is perhaps deflecting negative attention away from Essendon? but also heaping it on a former Essendon assistant?

From what I saw of the Port V Dons clash I didn't think either team looked particularly good

[hujsh]

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The ones that have been talking us up? I can't find any negative ones about us that would give any of our supporters good reason not to join up.

Who talked us up before this week?

[GVGjr]

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Who talked us up before this week?

I went through the paper with all the predictions by the journo's and in the main it was positive. Most of the comments on the radio before the round was positive as well. It's a myth for anyone to suggest that the media has it in for us. Sure some don't rate us that highly but that's to be expected.