Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

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  • Dogs 24/7
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 1197

    #46
    Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

    Originally posted by TAMA
    Everitt is a kid who has basically played games based on his potential and hasn't really stepped up to the mark thus far. He has shown that he is not a very accountable player and doesn't really like the body contest. If he was caught out against Richo in a marking duel he would get eaten alive. Everitt's decision making has shown to be quite suspect and that's too much of a risk against one of the best forwards of our time.

    A run with role against richo would a very defensive task and unfortunately Everitt just hasn't got a defensive side to his game. Sure, he looks great in space with the ball in his hands but he is not muture enough, strong enough or defensively minded enough to play on Richo.

    I know what you are saying in terms of hurting him going the other way, but the first objective must be to stop him, remember, this is a player that is renound for saving his best game of the year until he meets us.

    Hope that helps.

    I'm not going to disagree with what you have written but I would ask the question about if the role Everitt is being asked to play is why you don't think he is being overly accountable?
    From what I have seen, Everitt has normally been asked to play an attacking role and it might be interesting to see him being instructed to lock down on a player.

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    • Dogs 24/7
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 1197

      #47
      Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

      Originally posted by Griffen#16
      Who takes Deledio if he goes forward?
      When he is switched on he is a very hard match up for sides. He is very quick and he has a thumping kick.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #48
        Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

        Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
        I'm not going to disagree with what you have written but I would ask the question about if the role Everitt is being asked to play is why you don't think he is being overly accountable?
        From what I have seen, Everitt has normally been asked to play an attacking role and it might be interesting to see him being instructed to lock down on a player.
        Even if you are an attacking defender, you are still a defender and you have a responsibility to beat your direct opponent when they have have the ball. Everitt still gets very lost out there and gets led to the ball with regularity.

        No doubt that we don't want skinny to be a lock down player, but he still has to be able to get in the contest and be hard at it. We got rid of Mcmahon and Power because both of these players were great with the ball in space but were like jellyfish in the contest.

        I have no doubt that he will be able to do this and he will be a 200 game player for us, but right now he has low confidence which makes him look timid, unsure and Richo would spank him.

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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6522

          #49
          Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          Probably Morris, maybe Harbrow.
          I reckon we'll see Morris go to Morton and I doubt Harbrow will be able to match Brown in a marking contest.

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10143

            #50
            Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

            Originally posted by lemmon
            I reckon we'll see Morris go to Morton and I doubt Harbrow will be able to match Brown in a marking contest.
            I think Hargrave will take Schultz, with Morris going to Brown (as he is more dangerous than Morton IMO), and Harbrow to at least start on Morton.
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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18033

              #51
              Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              I think Hargrave will take Schultz, with Morris going to Brown (as he is more dangerous than Morton IMO), and Harbrow to at least start on Morton.
              That's a huge ask for Harbrow - giving away a lot of height and weight.
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              • Rocket Science
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2007
                • 4854

                #52
                Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                Morris on Brown makes sense, but Morton (186 cm) is reasonably strong overhead I'm not at all confident Harbrow (178 cm) could go with him in the air. Tiller could be a suitable match-up though.
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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14959

                  #53
                  Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  I think Hargrave will take Schultz, with Morris going to Brown (as he is more dangerous than Morton IMO), and Harbrow to at least start on Morton.
                  Originally posted by comrade
                  That's a huge ask for Harbrow - giving away a lot of height and weight.
                  Hargrave is also giving away a bit of height & size there too. Worrying.
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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11246

                    #54
                    Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                    Looks as though we may actually require another defender for match-up reasons. Remebering they can/will throw Simmonds/Deledio down there at times and so we will probably really need Tiller to fill a role. Otherwise, the backline does look a little unbalanced.

                    It'll be interesting to see which way the coaching panel go.
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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18033

                      #55
                      Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Hargrave is also giving away a bit of height & size there too. Worrying.
                      But Shaggy is a very good backman and Schultz is very average. I'd back Shag in every day of the week.

                      However Morton is very creative with good size about him and Harbrow is tiny and has been a defender for approx. 1 week. Too much to ask from him - a role like this is made for Tiller.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Rocket Science
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4854

                        #56
                        Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                        I hate conceding Richmond anything but upon closer inspection, while they're not all proven performers they've got the ability to regularly rotate a mix of smalls, mids and talls in attack in much the same way we were able to to last season, most notably versus Brisbane @ the MCG, which Matthews then noted caused him no end of headaches because every time he'd look up from his clipboard we had a different 'look' inside forward 50 and he found it difficult to keep up with his backline match-ups.

                        We need flexible players back there...Hargrave and Morris are givens in that regard, and Everitt/Tiller both handy complements.

                        Unless used exclusively up forward, am not sure there's a spot for Harbrow this week, particularly with Welsh a certain starter.
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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7374

                          #57
                          Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                          Everyone needs to forget that Shaggy is 190cm. He plays his best footy when matched against smalls, not talls. I couldn't see any reason he would be matched up against someone like Shultz.

                          Based on what I have seen so far this year, Morris will take the best opposition forward/one considered the most dangerous. That will end up being Deledio when he is playing down there, otherwise Morton.

                          Lake will take the bigs - that will be Simmonds when he is there - or they will manipulate him as the loose man. He reads the ball better than anyone else down there.

                          Williams will go to Richardson in the event he goes forward. The closest we have seen to Richardson in terms of size and athleticism this year is McPharlin - Williams went to him. Everitt will take the 'next' tall - again, vs Freo this was Johnson, against Richmond it will be Shultz.

                          When Brown is down there I suspect we will try and get Gilbee on him as that will cause headaches for Wallace...he wont want Brown having to account for Gilbee.

                          I doubt Ward will play back - he zones off as a defender (kind of a Guy McKenna style, angle cutting half back) and our defensive strategy has been very one-on-one lately. He will stay in the centre square which is where he has been.
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                          • dog town
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1914

                            #58
                            Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            Everyone needs to forget that Shaggy is 190cm. He plays his best footy when matched against smalls, not talls. I couldn't see any reason he would be matched up against someone like Shultz.

                            Based on what I have seen so far this year, Morris will take the best opposition forward/one considered the most dangerous. That will end up being Deledio when he is playing down there, otherwise Morton.

                            Lake will take the bigs - that will be Simmonds when he is there - or they will manipulate him as the loose man. He reads the ball better than anyone else down there.

                            Williams will go to Richardson in the event he goes forward. The closest we have seen to Richardson in terms of size and athleticism this year is McPharlin - Williams went to him. Everitt will take the 'next' tall - again, vs Freo this was Johnson, against Richmond it will be Shultz.

                            When Brown is down there I suspect we will try and get Gilbee on him as that will cause headaches for Wallace...he wont want Brown having to account for Gilbee.

                            I doubt Ward will play back - he zones off as a defender (kind of a Guy McKenna style, angle cutting half back) and our defensive strategy has been very one-on-one lately. He will stay in the centre square which is where he has been.
                            Pretty much agree with all of this, in particular the Hargrave part. He has been unbelievable on smaller players in his last 20 or so games. He should never stand a tall player again. It is what makes Williams an important player in our structure.

                            I would prefer Morris to take Riewoldt if possible. Riewoldt is a good second effort presenter with his leads and will double back towards the square to stay involved if they dont honour his leads. Morris doesn't ball watch and will stick at the task. I suppose it depends who rocket thinks is the most dangerous player

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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6522

                              #59
                              Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                              Im not a massive fan of the Gilbee on Brown, we cant forget how dangerous how Brown can be and I'd prefer for Gilbee to be playing on someone he can run off and find the ball. IMO he'd be to restricted playing on Brown.

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                              • Bulldog Revolution
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3926

                                #60
                                Re: Match Preview - Western Bulldogs v Richmond - R3

                                Originally posted by lemmon
                                Im not a massive fan of the Gilbee on Brown, we cant forget how dangerous how Brown can be and I'd prefer for Gilbee to be playing on someone he can run off and find the ball. IMO he'd be to restricted playing on Brown.
                                I've been wondering whether Hargrave is another good option go to Brown

                                But also expecting that either Tiller or Everitt would come into the team and probably get Riewoldt

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